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Old 10-15-2002, 01:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Man it's sad to look at karate nowadays. What used to be an effective art has been watered down and commercialized into nothing.
The same is happening to boxing and kickboxing through all these "cardio " classes. Although the true forms remain, you don't know how many people I hear say they take boxing or kickboxing, when really they do that crap.
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