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Originally posted by Szczepankiewicz
Not to rain on the Pride Parade here, but does anyone have any references to back up their 'facts'?
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the fact I stated about Wado karate and shindo(shinto) yoshin ryu ju jitsu can be found in history part of wado books
but how does the Gracie family proof their facts?
If you do a search of the grandmaster who was Helio's teacher then you will only find BJJ pages, no mention about him otherwise
Seeing that Helio is the only source of information about this, I could just as easy claim Helio was never thaught the complete system of ju jitsu because of which they think there are almost no strikes or kicks in ju jitsu in general, but I won't
I can only state what I already did and that different ryu stressed different techniques
There is no One style of jujitsu as there is one Kendo or one Judo
before the 20th century there were sveral different ryu some of which still excist, but when Judo was instroduced as a new ju jitsu style it took out all atemi and this was later used as a base for modern ju jitsu and nihon ju jitsu
If ju jitsu didn't have atemis at the time judo was introduced and stressed the same things as judo does, what made judo so much better that they could defeat the other ju jitsu schools?
In the beginning jistu was the mold for other arts later on the other arts were needed so jitsu could be re-created in it's full splendor
kendo did something like it, it took techniques and kata from many ken jitsu ryu oh and so did iaido(sword pulling art)
I ask myself one thing, why did Gracie start his own style, what was wrong with what he learned from his master?
You don't start your own style just to open a school or because you disagree with how bussiness is run for the latter you start a new organisation, you start a new style because you think you have a better way of fighting