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Cain · 04-03-2003, 01:24 PM

Carlson and Helio was considered jiu Jitsu masters, they adapted their techniques with streetfights and challengefights, but after helio beat the first jj-master from the east, he was considered the first western Jiu jitsu master! and if you see his fight-record, he is named as a jiu jitsu practitioner in many of the cases. But ofcourse, if you call a tree a tree or a bush is not the point is it, the point is that we all train what we like and get better at it, and then we go to walhalla and fight:P

04-03-2003, 01:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
Cain Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 388 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hey Carlson and Helio was considered jiu Jitsu masters, they adapted their techniques with streetfights and challengefights, but after helio beat the first jj-master from the east, he was considered the first western Jiu jitsu master! and if you see his fight-record, he is named as a jiu jitsu practitioner in many of the cases. But ofcourse, if you call a tree a tree or a bush is not the point is it, the point is that we all train what we like and get better at it, and then we go to walhalla and fight:P __________________ any given fighter can beat any given fighter on any given day.. so.. what are you waiting for Rickson, I'm here..