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Old 04-04-2003, 06:29 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally posted by chris davis 200
Im from the UK and our biggest organisations are Jokes in the main!! Just because a big organisation has alot of member dojo's it doesnt mean they know what they are doing!!

I use Ju Jutsu as the main example of this in the UK.

aikido? i dont know - there are many skilled people here, but for every skilled person there are 20 that should not be teaching. Karate has gone this way all over europe. with 1st and 2nd dans opening dojo's.

Martial arts have been watered down beyond recognition all over the world.

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Oh sorry Chris I didn't count the UK as part of the EU since you don't use the euro (just kiddin of coarse)

Ju Justu is one of the least organised arts in the EU

And as far as the UK karate org goes I was in the assumption that they were doing a good job just as the judo org

But what is it with martial arts that so many orgs excist, take boxing which org is the real world org?

As for 1st and 2nd dans starting schools, what's wrong with that, many of them now are 5th dan or higher
In the Netherlands were I live most schools started in the 60's as a 1st dan because at that time karate and judo were in the same org and if you were a judoteacher you you attained a blackbelt in either karate or ju jitsu you were also stait away a teacher in those arts
requirements now for karate teacher is still 2nd dan but it takes more than 3 years to first become an assistent and then a teacher
Judo the req is 3rd dan for teacher
In france(darn slipup) it's even better, goverment recognition gives you a posibility to grants
For instance when a judo becomes eu champion both he and his teacher will receive money
So there is a lot of goverment involvement in french sports
And this keeps the quality of the teachers at a very good level

When some people in the Us started talking about a system of recognition for teachers, everyone was comming with negatives about it, like who is going to judge them, because of that there still is no way for the consumer to check the validity of a teacher/school in the US
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