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Old 05-07-2003, 06:23 PM   #26 (permalink)
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If certain techniques are too deadly to train then how do you know if they work?
I don't know of anything that can't be trained in one way or another. How do you know it hurts? Ever been poked hard in the eye or been given an accidental shot to the throat? It's not on the top of my list of things I like to do. You can train these things if you wear protection, provided that the person you are gouging, poking, raking, biting, or throat striking reacts realistically. It's extremely annoying when you do a scenario with a little protection (headgear and throat cover), nail someone hard in the throat (they don't feel it much due to the pad), and they throw a combination at you. It robs the realism from the scenario. I roll my eyes at peole who say that eye, throat, and groin attacks don't hurt or damage them (I'm not talking about you).

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If my bjj is good enough I don't need to bite and scratch to finish someone off. And damn sure someone is going to have to do alot more than that to finish me off!
I agree to a point, but you will want to reconsider the second half of that one. If someone gets two thumbs in Royce Gracie's eye sockets, Royce is going to have a bad day. Conventional fighting methods are very important, but 'dirty' fighting is called 'dirty' for a reason--it's unfair, it hurts, and it's dangerous. You can be unlucky and lose to a fool who happens to clip your throat just right no matter what your skill level is.

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When I am dominating position and raining blows down on your head
While breaking your hands in short order.

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If you can't get position and dominate me you ain't gonna win with no dirty fighting.
Yes and no. That's why real fighting is always a crapshoot and is to be avoided. A big guy might not need position to pull out a blade and use it. I regard gouging and raking as either interruptors (so I can get to better position if I'm unlucky enough to be in a bad one) or as finishers (when you have position and you lay into them with the mean stuff). It obviously works better when you have control, but it can potentially do the job when you don't as well. Some people can have their eyes taken out and keep fighting while others will roll over and die with a little tap.

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It reminds me of the guy who came into our gym with all kinds of attitude and got his ass handed to him.
Good job to you or whoever did it. Anyone who comes into a gym with attitude and a big mouth needs an ass whoopin.
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