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conach · 05-10-2003, 03:35 AM

Judo has been mentioned, so here's my 2 cents... I always thought Judo was a crappy art to do when compared to a hand-to-hand combat art... But man, I was so wrong. Actually watching UFCs and all the comments on BJJ had me wondering. Then along came Bri Thai and wrote to me to consider Judo for throws. Then I started making my research... Throws can be dangerous when used in self defense. A throw on cement is very serious, and can cause a lot of damage. Same thing applies to BJJ and Wrestling with its takedowns. Many people don't have experience falling on the ground, so I think that just a simple takedown or throw can cause a lot of pain if the opponent falls on his back, hits his head on the ground or drops on his shoulder, for example. There's an interesting UFC fight between Tito Ortiz and Evan Tanner (UFC 30), where Tito slammed Tanner on the mat. The slam left Tanner unconscious, giving Tito freedom to pound his face (the referee stopped the fight once he saw Tanner gone). Now imagine there's no mat, but cement...

I usually win my fights against groundfighters by biting and reversing a technique to a breaking technique, torquing and twisting joints that they don't expect, bending fingers to the point of breaking, aggressivly using the most painfull pressure points, fishooking, gouging, pinching, pulling of hair, poking eyes, striking of joints, grabbing the groin. All this and more. And I have fought stylist from JJJ, BJJ, Karates, MMA, Gung FU, Shaolin Gung Fu. I understand and know how to use my system.

And lets not forget that in Hapkido we are taught to deal with a person as they try and take you down. So if you shoot in, grab to throw or whatever, I will break something without hesitation or a cry of remorse from my conciousness. And I will go for vital areas. I am not trying to lock you up or take you down from the begining. I am GOING to hurt you and not feel bad about it.

And if there is any doupt, well I have never lost, except to my GM. Believe it or not. Doesn't matter to me. And I have fought stylist from JJJ, BJJ, Karates, MMA, Gung FU, Shaolin Gung Fu. I understand and know how to use my system. That is what makes the difference.

Nobody doubts that Hapkido works great for you, Hapkidoist, and I don't doubt you know how to "use your system". You might be "taught to deal with a person as they try and take you down"; but a person formed in BJJ, JJJ, Wrestling, Sambo or Judo is, like it or not, "taught to take a person down". Back to my example... Let's say this person "aggressively" and "dirty" slams your head on 100% pure concrete. Slams and pounds you without remorse, completely careless if you get your head cracked in half, determined to "hurt you and not feel bad about it". Not giving a f@#$ that you're 2nd Dan in Hapkido, that you "understand and know how to use your system" and that "you have never lost, except to your GM"...

Remember that guy Hapkidoist?? Oh Yeah... Poor guy. Got his head smashed and can no longer do Hapkido because his brain got severely damaged. Oh Well... He had it coming, he thought he was Superman. That bastard that almost killed him sure knew his system, huh. His GM sure misses him... See ya Bri... Later man...

05-10-2003, 03:35 AM	#30 (permalink)
conach Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Venezuela Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Judo has been mentioned, so here's my 2 cents... I always thought Judo was a crappy art to do when compared to a hand-to-hand combat art... But man, I was so wrong. Actually watching UFCs and all the comments on BJJ had me wondering. Then along came Bri Thai and wrote to me to consider Judo for throws. Then I started making my research... Throws can be dangerous when used in self defense. A throw on cement is very serious, and can cause a lot of damage. Same thing applies to BJJ and Wrestling with its takedowns. Many people don't have experience falling on the ground, so I think that just a simple takedown or throw can cause a lot of pain if the opponent falls on his back, hits his head on the ground or drops on his shoulder, for example. There's an interesting UFC fight between Tito Ortiz and Evan Tanner (UFC 30), where Tito slammed Tanner on the mat. The slam left Tanner unconscious, giving Tito freedom to pound his face (the referee stopped the fight once he saw Tanner gone). Now imagine there's no mat, but cement... I usually win my fights against groundfighters by biting and reversing a technique to a breaking technique, torquing and twisting joints that they don't expect, bending fingers to the point of breaking, aggressivly using the most painfull pressure points, fishooking, gouging, pinching, pulling of hair, poking eyes, striking of joints, grabbing the groin. All this and more. And I have fought stylist from JJJ, BJJ, Karates, MMA, Gung FU, Shaolin Gung Fu. I understand and know how to use my system. And lets not forget that in Hapkido we are taught to deal with a person as they try and take you down. So if you shoot in, grab to throw or whatever, I will break something without hesitation or a cry of remorse from my conciousness. And I will go for vital areas. I am not trying to lock you up or take you down from the begining. I am GOING to hurt you and not feel bad about it. And if there is any doupt, well I have never lost, except to my GM. Believe it or not. Doesn't matter to me. And I have fought stylist from JJJ, BJJ, Karates, MMA, Gung FU, Shaolin Gung Fu. I understand and know how to use my system. That is what makes the difference. Nobody doubts that Hapkido works great for you, Hapkidoist, and I don't doubt you know how to "use your system". You might be "taught to deal with a person as they try and take you down"; but a person formed in BJJ, JJJ, Wrestling, Sambo or Judo is, like it or not, "taught to take a person down". Back to my example... Let's say this person "aggressively" and "dirty" slams your head on 100% pure concrete. Slams and pounds you without remorse, completely careless if you get your head cracked in half, determined to "hurt you and not feel bad about it". Not giving a f@#$ that you're 2nd Dan in Hapkido, that you "understand and know how to use your system" and that "you have never lost, except to your GM"... Remember that guy Hapkidoist?? Oh Yeah... Poor guy. Got his head smashed and can no longer do Hapkido because his brain got severely damaged. Oh Well... He had it coming, he thought he was Superman. That bastard that almost killed him sure knew his system, huh. His GM sure misses him... See ya Bri... Later man...