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Jimmy23 · 11-05-2000, 05:41 PM

Unfortunately I dont have the URLs,but several studies have indicated that Texas has a big problem with its justice system.Yea,its weak of me to say that and not provide refernces,sorry.
But,all sources will agree that there is no statistical relationship between violent crime and the death penalty.The type of scumbag that murders for profit or for lust doesnt think logically.
However,my opposition to the death penalty comes from the problems in the administraion of it.Usually when these cases are discussed,a heinous crime is described,and a defendent is sentenced to death .The left rails against the death penalty,the right dwells on details of the crime,buttoo often no one questions the basic assumption:is the guy guilty?Too often justice is a machine that cries for victims,and the poor and those with records for other crimes are unable to defend thamselves.prosecutors dont reveal all the evidence to defense attorneys,who all to often are incompetant .There is a reason that the pro death penalty governer of illinois has stopped all executions in that state,until the pronlems I have mentioned are resolved.
My question to conservatives is,if you believe that Big Government is the problem,that beauracies(sp?) tend to perpetuate themselves and to lose sight of their original purpose,why do you not apply this attitude to the justice system?Why do you question all branches of government except for law enforcment and prosecutors?The same people work there as in the EPA or OSHA,people are people,and the same forces that encourage the IRS agent to crush people encourage the district attorney to do the same.Im sure that you (pro death penalty people) want the guilty executed,not the innocent,my contention is that with a little bit of research you will see that it is questionable whether our current system accomplishes this.Combine this with the fact (well documented)that the death penalty is NOT an effective deterrent,and I,personally,must oppose it.
BTW,let me explain what I mean about the death penalty not being a deterrent .Yes many death penaly states have had a drop in violent crime,but statistically it is the same drop seen in non death penalty states.

[Edited by Jimmy23 on 11-05-2000 at 01:48 PM]

11-05-2000, 05:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
Jimmy23 Novice Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Biloxi,Mississippi Posts: 60	Unfortunately I dont have the URLs,but several studies have indicated that Texas has a big problem with its justice system.Yea,its weak of me to say that and not provide refernces,sorry. But,all sources will agree that there is no statistical relationship between violent crime and the death penalty.The type of scumbag that murders for profit or for lust doesnt think logically. However,my opposition to the death penalty comes from the problems in the administraion of it.Usually when these cases are discussed,a heinous crime is described,and a defendent is sentenced to death .The left rails against the death penalty,the right dwells on details of the crime,buttoo often no one questions the basic assumption:is the guy guilty?Too often justice is a machine that cries for victims,and the poor and those with records for other crimes are unable to defend thamselves.prosecutors dont reveal all the evidence to defense attorneys,who all to often are incompetant .There is a reason that the pro death penalty governer of illinois has stopped all executions in that state,until the pronlems I have mentioned are resolved. My question to conservatives is,if you believe that Big Government is the problem,that beauracies(sp?) tend to perpetuate themselves and to lose sight of their original purpose,why do you not apply this attitude to the justice system?Why do you question all branches of government except for law enforcment and prosecutors?The same people work there as in the EPA or OSHA,people are people,and the same forces that encourage the IRS agent to crush people encourage the district attorney to do the same.Im sure that you (pro death penalty people) want the guilty executed,not the innocent,my contention is that with a little bit of research you will see that it is questionable whether our current system accomplishes this.Combine this with the fact (well documented)that the death penalty is NOT an effective deterrent,and I,personally,must oppose it. BTW,let me explain what I mean about the death penalty not being a deterrent .Yes many death penaly states have had a drop in violent crime,but statistically it is the same drop seen in non death penalty states. [Edited by Jimmy23 on 11-05-2000 at 01:48 PM] __________________ Only a fool hates the truth,but the world is full of fools Karl Gotch