http://www.hopeforhealing.org/myths.html
I can't believe that you are actually fighting about the stats that change from year to year. Women learning self defense is a great thing... but, won't change the reality. (no amount of self defense protects you from the date rape drug)
Lorne's message was misguided but on the right track... I agree with all of you that men shouldn't be expected to accept responsibility for crimes they do not comit... but Lorne's point, I think, is that having the courage to stand up and say that this sort of behavior is wrong would go a long way to preventing alot of the "date" rapes out there...
you see two men clearly getting a woman rip rouring drunk at a bar ... the situation feels wrong to you, what do you do?
My Aunt was raped in a bathroom at frat house... many people around outside of door... she was screaming... not one person tried to stop it! Why? People make excuses, men and women alike, for not stepping in when they, in their gut, know that what is going on needs to be stoped.
More people need to be pro-active, men and women alike, so that this sort of crime can be less common.