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Originally posted by dimo
http://www.hopeforhealing.org/myths.html
I can't believe that you are actually fighting about the stats that change from year to year. Women learning self defense is a great thing... but, won't change the reality. (no amount of self defense protects you from the date rape drug)
Lorne's message was misguided but on the right track... I agree with all of you that men shouldn't be expected to accept responsibility for crimes they do not comit... but Lorne's point, I think, is that having the courage to stand up and say that this sort of behavior is wrong would go a long way to preventing alot of the "date" rapes out there...
you see two men clearly getting a woman rip rouring drunk at a bar ... the situation feels wrong to you, what do you do?
My Aunt was raped in a bathroom at frat house... many people around outside of door... she was screaming... not one person tried to stop it! Why? People make excuses, men and women alike, for not stepping in when they, in their gut, know that what is going on needs to be stoped.
More people need to be pro-active, men and women alike, so that this sort of crime can be less common.
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And that, I will agree with. I would never stand back and watch a man beat or rape a woman. A better point for this thread would have been "No one (male or female) should allow a fellow human being to be mistreated if they know that said mistreatment is occuring."
As has been pointed out earlier, men are not the only perpetrators of violent crimes. Men are beat by their wives quite often, yet the crimes go unreported or the police don't even bother. I've read the story of a guy that was repeatedly physically assaulted by his wife. He had the intelligence to not hit her back....your wife could be standing over your comatose body with a bat and if you've touched her at all violently (even if she started it), you'll be the one hauled off (yes, that's probably an exaggeration, but you all get the point). He had called the cops, but every time they showed up, she was Ms. Sweet and Innocent again and nothing was ever done on any of the 5 or 6 occasions he had called. Let me hear ya say "That ain't right!"