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Depends on what style you are studying and how fast their grading system is. Keep in mind that some systems take a long time to get a black belt. In some karate dojos (McDojos) you can get a black within 1 or 2 years. The style of Ju Jitsu I study (but have to drop because of a recurriing Ac joint injury) it takes minimum of 5 years to get 1st dan Black blet. my instructor has been studying for 10 years and is 2nd Dan.
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agreed - similar situation in my TJJ school, but i was refering to more of the modern systems.
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In my opion a lot of moves from traditional ju jitsu aren't too flash when it comes to street fights. I think you have to start improvising on what you learn....
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In my experience i beleive that most of the techniques in traditional JJ are not designed as set defences for set attacks but are design to teach you a way of using principles.
For example once you know how the joints of the body work instinctivley, you are able to apply a locking technique to any joint on the body very very quickly. This principle from only one technique that you learn in class can be applied to any situation.
This is true of all the techniques in TJJ - if you can get to the principle of the technique then the attack coming at you is irrelevant.
so you will basically get a multitude of techniques from a single principle.
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However, a decent amateur boxer could probably best quite a few traditional martial artist even at 1-3rd dan BB levels.
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I agree with you there - but it is such an unditermined thing that who knows!
cheers
chris