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Old 08-19-2003, 11:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why did you have to start this crap again? I think I'm probably not alone in saying that I'm soooooo sick of hearing about how great Bruce was. Enough already. Can't you move on?

Last I checked, Jackie Chan's movies were actually more popular in Asia than Bruce's. In this sense, I'd think you'd be more proud that Jackie was able to get huge cross-over fame in the US. Not to mention that Jet Li and Chow Yun Fat haven't done so bad. Bruce certainly opened the door for Asian movie stars. He was absolutely instrumental in that. I will grant that much. But you can't keep dwelling upon him.

Ok, then dude, you put Martin Luther King Jr. and Tupac in the same class? What the hell is wrong with you? I mean, yeah, Tupac was a great rapper, but he's hardly in the same class of human being as MLK. If African American's see Tupac as their idol then that is just sad. I think its a little offensive that you somehow associate all blacks as worshipping rappers. I can't say I've ever had a black friend tell me he or she was proud to be black because of Tupac. If anything Tupac gave America the sterotypical notion that all black males are gangstas and thugs. Quite the opposite of the effect you are claiming for Bruce--and certainly a very different effect than MLK had on the American consciousness.

Likewise, I don't think most white people think Elvis or Marilyn are their idols, and the greatest thing their culture has to offer. They are both historical relics these days. A bit of nostaglic pop culture. A more appropriate argument would be that Brittney Spears and Eminem give white people pride. But that too would be the height of absurdity.

And that is just sad that you think Bruce is the epitome of Chinese culture. I mean you have a culture that goes back like 4,000 years or thereabouts. China is responsible for many innovations, and has been a major player in the world for all of history. And you're proud of a movie star. Sad, sad, sad. That would be like white people saying Chuck Norris makes us all proud to be American. Or Steven Seagal. That is essentially what you are saying. If out of thousands of years of culture all you can find to make you proud to be Chinese is Bruce Lee then I think you really need to learn more about your culture. China has been the cradle of civilization in east Asia--it is the nation that all other nations in east Asia (save Japan) payed homage to and looked to for their own cultural development. And you're proud of a movie star. Not of the fact that you come from one of the oldest and most influential cultures on Earth. Whatever. I am sick to death of this hero worship. Bruce was a man. He had some great thoughts. He was a damn good martial artist, but not invincible, nor the best ever. He had all the normal faults of any human being. And he's been dead 30 years. Move on man. I know China has as a nation. I'm pretty damn certain the average person in China doesn't give Bruce Lee very much thought these days. And this worship of Bruce also precludes you from acknowledging successful Chinese people today in the real world.

I have to tell you PC that I've known and worked with lots of Chinese people. I have never, ever over all the years heard any Chinese person I know talk about Bruce Lee. Not once. So based on my experience I think you are speaking of your own hero worship and not some deep seated cultural trend towards worshiping Bruce. Its just not there. If anything I think Bruce is worshipped way more by white people.

Let the flames commence.
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