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Old 09-15-2003, 07:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Here we go again!!!!

TMA's - and you group TKD and Karate in that group?

TKD is classed as modern - Many Karate Styles are also Classed as modern. They were developed in the main in the 1900's

If you are talking about TMA's then actually talk about them - grouping TMA's into the group of Kata heavy arts is Just NOT CORRECT.

Many many TMA's with long lineages are taught with FULL contact sparring and contain a more effective weapon base than MT - as in grappling & striking.

MT itself is a traditional martial art in every sense of the word.

If you have a beef with certain arts becasue of their training practices then fine - say something about those arts and justify the points. Do not collectivley group modern arts that you dont like and TMA's together cause you think they are the same. They are not.


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Kata is the essense of karate as full contact sparring is what MuayThai is about and has always been about.
Kata is the essence of the spiritual development of Karate, (much like the pre fight dance of MT - no useful techniques there is there?) It is used to calm the mind and prepare the body and joints for action.

Kyokushinkai karate had a focus on sparring and conditioning that easily rivaled that of MT. Do your homework before making such bold statements.

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When I say traditional arts I am talking about the asian art forms not the arts that teach actual self-defense.
What is that supposed to mean - excuse my ignorance - do you mean asian arts in general - or just the likes of karate and TKD - if you are talking about ones that dont teach self defence - then surely MT is in that group.

It teaches you to fight in a ring sport environment not really the street. If it did you wouldnt have boxing gloves, you would defend throws, grabs to the balls, hair pulling etc.

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Unlike other styles they do not teach the old fashioned useless pre-arranged movements of styles like karate when it was first invented,and do not practice point sparring.
Do you work out? do you do conditioning on your muscles and bones?

I am sure you do.

Kata is not a pre arranged way to fight someone on the street - it is a method (and very effective one) of creating strong muscles, stable (but fluid) stances and stength in the joints so that they can take impacts etc. KATA ARE NOT FOR FIGHTING - THEY ARE FOR TRAINING.

just SOME holes in this massive generalisation that you have posted.

No offence meant - just - well - some corrections.

And for the record i practice neither Karate or TKD.

Cheers
Chris

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