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Sean Dempsey · 09-17-2003, 02:56 PM

(paraphrased) "The purpose of your training should be to raise the game of those around you" -Helio Gracie

This class sounds like it is full of jokers.

There is alot that they can do to train with someone who is new and still improve everyone's game. Ever asked them to only use their legs and go for triangles? They are probaly such ego idiots that they can't bear to do anything but go for submissions.

You could have them maintain guard, or have to stay on their back, or have you start out crossbody. There is any number of things the more advanced students could do with you were everyone benefits. I am guessing these clowns aren't disciplined enough to realize that.

I am sorry your school isn't what you'd like, I doubt I'd enjoy myself there either. Whenever new people come to our school, everyone is super nice, and we all roll with them. Just last night I rolled with a guy who was brand new. We threw a Gi on him and went at it. During the whole roll, he was making glaring huge mistakes, but the whole time I was telling him what to do and what he was doing wrong.

He learned things, and so did I. And you know what? Even against a brand new guy, both of us raised our game for eachother.

I remember when I was brand new, and I could tell people were reluctant to roll with me because it was pretty much just totally elementary. But they did it anyways, and I learned and learned. My first 3 months of Jiu Jitsu was during a summer where there was no class, so it was just rolling. I spent 3 months training with no instruction, no coaching, no moves, no knowledge, nothing. Eventually, they saw I was so humble and teachable, they would tap me, and then show me what they did. So slowly I learned the good ol' fashioned "hard way". And then finally classes started.

So now, whenever someone is new, I always say to myself "What if no one had ever rolled with me because I was so new, or never stopped the roll to show me what a 'triangle' was", and I always remind myself of that Helio quote. My goal isn't to make myself better. My goal is to see how I can make everyone in that class better.

I'd just hang in there and learn learn learn, get real technical, train like mad, and just remember the core fundamentals of JJ.

Someday, another new student will walk in the door, and that'll be your turn to break the cycle and see what it's like to use your JJ skills to raise the game of that new person.

09-17-2003, 02:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sean Dempsey Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 274 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	(paraphrased) "The purpose of your training should be to raise the game of those around you" -Helio Gracie This class sounds like it is full of jokers. There is alot that they can do to train with someone who is new and still improve everyone's game. Ever asked them to only use their legs and go for triangles? They are probaly such ego idiots that they can't bear to do anything but go for submissions. You could have them maintain guard, or have to stay on their back, or have you start out crossbody. There is any number of things the more advanced students could do with you were everyone benefits. I am guessing these clowns aren't disciplined enough to realize that. I am sorry your school isn't what you'd like, I doubt I'd enjoy myself there either. Whenever new people come to our school, everyone is super nice, and we all roll with them. Just last night I rolled with a guy who was brand new. We threw a Gi on him and went at it. During the whole roll, he was making glaring huge mistakes, but the whole time I was telling him what to do and what he was doing wrong. He learned things, and so did I. And you know what? Even against a brand new guy, both of us raised our game for eachother. I remember when I was brand new, and I could tell people were reluctant to roll with me because it was pretty much just totally elementary. But they did it anyways, and I learned and learned. My first 3 months of Jiu Jitsu was during a summer where there was no class, so it was just rolling. I spent 3 months training with no instruction, no coaching, no moves, no knowledge, nothing. Eventually, they saw I was so humble and teachable, they would tap me, and then show me what they did. So slowly I learned the good ol' fashioned "hard way". And then finally classes started. So now, whenever someone is new, I always say to myself "What if no one had ever rolled with me because I was so new, or never stopped the roll to show me what a 'triangle' was", and I always remind myself of that Helio quote. My goal isn't to make myself better. My goal is to see how I can make everyone in that class better. I'd just hang in there and learn learn learn, get real technical, train like mad, and just remember the core fundamentals of JJ. Someday, another new student will walk in the door, and that'll be your turn to break the cycle and see what it's like to use your JJ skills to raise the game of that new person. __________________ ...making $70,000 a year in pure PROFIT like I am right now from my full time career in Information Technology as a Programmer... - GuardMaster Make up to 7 dollars a year PROFIT like I do right now as a Submission Grappling Joint Relocator! - Sean Dempsey