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What are u doing for abs now?
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I do cable crunches and weighted leglifts and this is pretty much it.
I also do some knee ins and decline crunches or ab machine for fun ,but those first two are my core since they work for me and can be used with as much weight as necessary.
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Sorry to be rude but it sounds like some of you don't train your abs how you should.
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I'm a former competitive natural bodybuilder.Many guys I've worked out with never ever trained abs except once in a blue moon.
The truth is great abs have nothing to do with the number of sit ups and crunches a person does,and everything to do with bodyfat levels and high intensity resistence.
Hardcore lifting will produce great abs over crunches an situps anyday,if the latter was the case then every out of shape weekend warrior who does 200-500 sit ups would sport a nice washboard pack,but this isn't the case.
Hardcore squats,deadlifts,bicep curls rows et cetera will do the job,and ab work is just to bring out more detail.
Hardcore=high intensity= 4-6 reps to faliure,then do two more.
This is as simple as it gets.