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Chin-Na is not a martial art in itself. Rather it is an aspect of Chinese combat tactics. Anyone who practises a Chinese martial art should have an understanding of Chin-Na.
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I agree. Chi-Na is simply a term that applies to a specific strategy.
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Chinese martial arts were designed to despatch the opponent as quickly as possible on the battlefield before his friends could come to his aid. What would be the point on the battlefield of rolling around on the ground seeking a submission from one enemy when there are hundreds of them around you with spears and swords? There is no time for such things.
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While that may be true, we’re no longer fighting in medieval battlefields. Each art has it’s time and place. In the present world, the battleground is the ring, or cage more often than none.
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Another reason Chinese martial arts don't emphasise ground fighting is that if you have trained your stance to be firm, your waist to be supple, your blocks to be effective and your strikes to be powerful, your opponent should go down without taking you with him.
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All the stance training in the world cannot prevent somone from tackling you down with their weight and full force. Furthermore, the idea of ALL martial arts is that the opponent will go down, but that’s easier said than done.
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People who say that fights always end up on the ground don't know how to hit and don't know how to stand so they have to rely on grappling. Fair enough, if that's how they want to fight.
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Now, you’re just being ignorant... Grappling is a form of martial art. Why would a grappler trade punches when he can tie a person in knots? By your logic, birds can only fly away because they can’t deal with humans... No shiet, Sherlock. Unfortunately, I’ve heard your type of opinions before and they don’t hold much weight in the reality of things.
You see, I’ve experienced professional level kung-fu before and nothing suggests that it is anymore lethal than the next art. The whole idea of “our techniques only work in the streets” is a cop-out because no notable kung-fu man has defeated other professional martial artist, let alone street thugs.
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With regard to "dirty fighting":
When I used to train at university, my friends in the Karate club would sometimes spar with us but then accuse us of "dirty fighting" because we used what they considered "dishonorable" tactics (I once spat a sweet I was sucking at a friend who insisted that I spar with him there and then; while he tried to cover his face from the sticky sweet, I gently tapped in the groin with my foot. Fight over).
In Chinese martial arts there is no such thing as "dirty fighting", just staying alive and doing anything to achieve that.
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With all due respect, most university martial arts programs are simply for health and fitness. The fact that you resorted to “dirty techniques” is a clear indication of your insecurities. Sparring matches are meant to hone one’s skills and test reflexes, timing, etc... The objective is not to kill, maim or even defeat your opponent, in some instances. I can see why such a club would resent your dishonorable tactics. A person goes to the gym to develop their kicks and someone spits in their eye and taps their groin... How uncivilized...
On another note, what makes you believe that dirty tactics are limited to kung-fu? Dirty tactics are found in just about every martial art, including boxing, judo and even TKD. Do they really work? Maybe, maybe not. I doubt a spit-ball would deter a boxer from closing in with mutliple punches, or a grappler from his shoot... After being slapped into a rear naked choke, see how many dirty tactics you can think of in that position? You have less than 3 seconds, with your arms, head and legs immobilized before your body goes into shock.