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RobertG · 10-01-2003, 08:37 AM

Stupid **** eh?

All right grubby lets break this down for you again.

Joo Bang Lee was teaching Hapkido is Korea (which is a derivative of Japanese martial arts). He was not teaching "Hwarang Do" because no such thing ever existed (according to Korean historical documents). Then Joo Bang Lee watches You Only Live Twice and reads the Destroyer books. He decides that he can make a lot of money off of guilable Americans by modelling a Korean martial art after Ninjitsu and the art of Sinanju (which Remo Williams used in the Destroyer books). He comes to America and teaches Hapkido with some Eastern Medicine, a lot of pseudo spirituality, and stuff ripped straight from ficition. Voila! Now you've got Hwarang Do. Oh yeah, the whole monastery story was ripped off straight from the Kung Fu series as well.

I also said some modern, derivative arts can be effective. Modernity isn't necessarily a strike against you. Dressing up in black and thinking you're Remo Williams is a big strike against you. Does Hwarang Do have some effective stuff in it? Sure. Its basically Hapkido after all. But your weapons techniques make people cringe. Even if the whole story where true, you don't learn to knife fight from a bunch of Buddhist monks (its sort of against their principles to gut people). But since JBL fabricated the knife skills without so much as even consulting the local FMA community in Southern Cal, well, yeah, HD's knife skills look like, well, not realistic.

As for Ninjitsu, yeah, lets all go to the bookstore and read books by people with a financial stake in Ninjitsu.

Or we can read scholarly works that you probably have to dig through a major university library for, and therein you will see there is little to no historical support for the existence of Ninja's or Ninjitsu prior to the peaceful Tokugawa era (when they were fabricated by storytellers for entertainment purposes). Duh.

10-01-2003, 08:37 AM	#19 (permalink)
RobertG Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 369 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stupid **** eh? All right grubby lets break this down for you again. Joo Bang Lee was teaching Hapkido is Korea (which is a derivative of Japanese martial arts). He was not teaching "Hwarang Do" because no such thing ever existed (according to Korean historical documents). Then Joo Bang Lee watches You Only Live Twice and reads the Destroyer books. He decides that he can make a lot of money off of guilable Americans by modelling a Korean martial art after Ninjitsu and the art of Sinanju (which Remo Williams used in the Destroyer books). He comes to America and teaches Hapkido with some Eastern Medicine, a lot of pseudo spirituality, and stuff ripped straight from ficition. Voila! Now you've got Hwarang Do. Oh yeah, the whole monastery story was ripped off straight from the Kung Fu series as well. I also said some modern, derivative arts can be effective. Modernity isn't necessarily a strike against you. Dressing up in black and thinking you're Remo Williams is a big strike against you. Does Hwarang Do have some effective stuff in it? Sure. Its basically Hapkido after all. But your weapons techniques make people cringe. Even if the whole story where true, you don't learn to knife fight from a bunch of Buddhist monks (its sort of against their principles to gut people). But since JBL fabricated the knife skills without so much as even consulting the local FMA community in Southern Cal, well, yeah, HD's knife skills look like, well, not realistic. As for Ninjitsu, yeah, lets all go to the bookstore and read books by people with a financial stake in Ninjitsu. Or we can read scholarly works that you probably have to dig through a major university library for, and therein you will see there is little to no historical support for the existence of Ninja's or Ninjitsu prior to the peaceful Tokugawa era (when they were fabricated by storytellers for entertainment purposes). Duh.