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karate and kung fu?
karate is based off of the foundations and basics of kung fu in its stances, strikes, linear movements, etc.
you can't have kung fu without karate. you can however have karate without kung fu as is done all over the world.
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karate is inside kung fu, kung fu is not inside karate. karate is the basics for kung fu, karate originated from kung fu. this is exactly what i said above but i guess another way to say this is:
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Karate has its roots in Gung-Fu, not vice versa! No "pure" Gung-Fu system EVER "originated" from Karate. Using the Hard vs. Soft style is no basis either as Gung-Fu "originated" both!
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Some gong fu styles use linear others cirvular,the same with Karate Both Gong fu and Karate are generic terms, they do not say much about the techniques for instance Okinawa Goju uses a lot of circular motion
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http://semiosphere.info/musings/personal/200308261703.html
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Tang Shou Tao is not, in itself, a martial art. Rather it is a structure or format for training in the three main Chinese internal martial arts: Hsing-I, Pa Kua, and Tai Chi. The internal martial arts, as opposed to the the external arts, are characterized by their extensive focus on breathing technique, open palm strikes, and the utilization of a body mechanics that aims at the development of large amounts of force within small and subtle movements. Additionally, where most of the external forms of Chinese Kung Fu have a Buddhist heritage--often linked in some way or another to the Shaolin Temples--the internal styles of Kung Fu have an explicitly Taoist character and lineage.
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QUOTE]http://www.lyon-karate.com/okinawan_goju_ryu_karate.php[/quote]
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Goju-Ryu Karate was founded by Chojun Miyagi. Sensei Miyagi had spent years in China training with the Chinese masters of White Crane style Kung Fu before returning to Okinawa to formulate what is now known as Okinawan Goju-Ryu Karate Do.
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http://www.eastcoast.co.za/buddy/whatisgoju.html
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Goju Ryu Karate-Doh literally means 'The Way of the Half Hard, Half Soft System of Empty Hand.'
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let me take a step back because i may have written things down a little carelessly. the point i was trying to make is that kung/gong fu have everything which is karate but karate doesn't have all that is kung/gong fu. so that the idea of having karate and kung fu as a combination for fighting is not realistic.
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these would represent the majority of kung fu styles. kung fu uses it all while the majority of karate styles only use the hard linear techniques and stances.
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i did write "majority" in there.