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Old 10-25-2003, 07:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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that is interesting.

if most people never get black belts then what does that say about the training they are recieving.

people are considered masters after about 10 years worth of work on a subject. Music, art, and such.

15 years to blackbelt???

seems like a way to get a bunch of money out of people.
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