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Old 11-04-2003, 05:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Thai Bri
For the most part, Wing Chun is a game of patta cake, devoid of any real power, and time is taken up practicing silly forms, as well as Chi Sao, which has little relevance to fighting. It is also limted as it has no ground work.
There are some athletic individuals that make it work, but that is despite its limitiations.

If you want to learn to fight, you are making the wrong choice.
A surprisingly narrow minded exclamation from a supposedly mature policeman. ThaiBri you sound like one of those teenage 'only my styles are any good & yours is rubbish' type of posters.
Wing Chun is vastly different from all of the other styles of 'Kung Fu' in that it is NOT flowery at all and is a very direct linear method of 'Fighting' and there are many schools that do quite hard sparring, even in the UK (London comes to mind), in fact at a number of WC clubs you can almost certainly expect to come away from a session with a black eye & bloodied nose etc.

Siu Lim Tao, the very foundation of the system, why?, do you think just for the sake of 'looking flashy', no!, with WC the forms (only 3 main ones) consist of all the movements of the system PUT INTO a routine, why?, in order to "internalise" them, ie. to ingrain them into the subconscious so that they become reflexive and instinctive so that when the shyte hits the fan there is no hesitation.
Another very important (imo) aspect of WC is the relaxation it teaches/should teach, this gives a proficient practitioner an almost 'Zen' like state of mind when it comes right down to it, and yes i am talking reality here, i know of 1 doorman in Brixton-London whose only training is in WC and he handles himself very well indeed.
I also know and have trained with a number of Policemen in the Met who in addition to JJ have trained and used a couple of elements of WC in their jobs, so they have told me.

ChiSao or energy drills are not useless, but do, however require a degree of intelligence & sensitivity to understand. From your limited remarks above, i cannot be bothered arguing on this point, I guess you don't hear the thud of boxing gloves on skin so it may not appear to be powerful to some folks.

Lastly and not least, the short ROM (range of motion) punches in WC are not to be underestimated because the power comes up from the hips all the way through the shoulders and could IF executed properly, equal any other type of punch in the world, and yes that means MT, BJJ et al.............
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