Thai guys train the right way Tom. Many years ago kung fu guys were like that too. Mao ended it all. Only small little groups here and there of kung fu guys doing it right today. 10 - 15 more years and it will kind of all be gone. That's the natural way.
I did 5 gong sau matches when I lived in HK. Won 3. Lost 1 pretty clear. Got knocked out so it was clear to me
Almost got killed in the other. No match for the guy. He beat me up good before I was sent down. Lost 3 teeth, bunches of stitches in my mouth, broken nose, cracked some ribs and messed my shoulder up bad. Started kicking me in the head when I was down. Too much power, speed, skill and experience. Too much everything. I never saw anything after his first hit landed. No contest. If people hadn't dived on top of him he probably would have killed me.
Average Thai guy beat the pants off good kung fu guy by today's standard. No contest. Average west boxer much harder to hit than good kung fu guy too. They're also tougher and put their punches together better. That's what I see in the ring. Can't say how a west boxer does in a street fight.
Kung fu guys today still have better hand techniques than any Thai. That's no help because they can't use them when it's real. Most don't do it the right way. Soon as it's real hard contact they fall apart. Look like dog poop flailing around. Can't take getting hit hard at all. Bad training is the reason.
It's never the style and always the man.
Tameo you're no help at all. You post with a dummy picture and make a statement by itself. Why? You want to just argue to argue there's plenty of crazy guys and Pee-Pee Heads on this forum to do it with. Got anything positive to say about thread topic?