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Old 12-07-2003, 08:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fist What Is A Cross Punch????

i know of most of the basic punches, uppercut, jab, straight,hook, but what is a cross????
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i know of most of the basic punches, uppercut, jab, straight,hook, but what is a cross????
if your an orthodox fighter (left hand is the lead hand) then a cross would be when you throw a straight punch with your right hand
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From orthodox stance throw a left jab then follow up with a straight right. The right cross. Or opposite if you are a southpaw.
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Bull shit.

A Right Cross is NOT the same as a straight Right. A cross has that name for a reason.

Imgine watching someone throw a punch, but you are watching from above. If, for example, they have a left lead, yet are throwing a right handed punch, it becomes a "Cross" if it travels diagonally, across the front of your body, finishing at a point where your fist is approximately in line with your left shoulder. It literally goes across your body.

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so it's a straitpunch to the cheek ( the punch itself travels in a strait line)
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Not disagreeing with you but from what I have been taught its the same thing. When I throw a left jab and bring it back for the right cross, my right doesnt come across my body. Your upperbody should still be pretty much straight and your trunk and legs turned, my shoulders are in the same position as when I throw a straight right.
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well thanks for your replys i appreciate it but wich is it??? lol.
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Yes, it is a straight punch. Thats why they have another punch, called the Straight Right. Thats the one that must cross the body...........

stupiddog (great neame by the way). You must make up your own mind. It isn't exactly a no brainer, based on the evidence of language.
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Thanks thai i think i got it now lol. umm yea i like my name too lol.
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Actually, I was on the phone to my good friend Mr Ed. I asked him what he thought, and this is what he said -

"A cross is a cross of course of course
and never a cleverer name of course
to say a straight is masturbate
to anyone with an 'ead."

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After much research into this I came across two theories:

1. As Bri Thai said, the straight right comes straight down the line
and the cross comes slightly diagonally.

2. The cross derives it's name from the relationship of the punch
with the front foot. Lead/jab is the hand on the side of the lead foot (straight left orthodox), cross is the hand on the non-leading side (straight
right orthodox).

I came to the following conclusion. I don't matter what you call them, all punches can be a blend of the three various dimensions (H, W, D = upper, hook, straight). If you understand that, you can punch from any angle and in any direction you choose with correct the mechanics.

Don't worry about the difference between straight and cross, just throw that right hand enough and eventually you will be able to manipulate the angle to get the hit.

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I had always been taught that the cross and straight right were the same punch. Tonight I asked a very good boxing trainer. He's currently training world champions Raul Marquez and Reggie Johnson. He said that a cross is the same as a straight right. Maybe we're wrong and stand to be corrected, but just relaying the info as I've heard it. But like Kiwi said, the name doesn't matter as much as making the punches work!

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dont have any idea about what ur talking about
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