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    bulking up

    There's very few people I can fight as a cruiserweight in my amateur competitions. I've been given 2 options; lose weight or gain weight. I don't wasnt to lose my hard earned muscle mass so I feel the best route is to gain weight. After 2 months I have gained next to nothing yet I'm eating sh#t loads and i'm cycling my weight-training AND i'm doing my normal boxing training too. I work out 6 days a week (3-weight training, 3-boxing training). Here's what I eat on a typical day;
    -Bowl of oats
    -4 eggs and 3 slices of bacon (grilled on George Foreans's Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine- it's good!) with fat trimmed off
    - 1 pint skimmed milk
    -1 apples, 1 orange
    -Bowl of oats
    -rice with chopped up chicken breast
    -1 protein shake
    -2 eggs and bowl of beans
    -1 apple ,1 orange
    - 1 main dinner (can be anything but low in fat high in protein)
    -1 protein shake
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    Would you say this was enough calories? And/or do you think I'm overtraining myself? All comments welcome. Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanReady2Rmble
    There's very few people I can fight as a cruiserweight in my amateur competitions. I've been given 2 options; lose weight or gain weight. I don't wasnt to lose my hard earned muscle mass so I feel the best route is to gain weight. After 2 months I have gained next to nothing yet I'm eating sh#t loads and i'm cycling my weight-training AND i'm doing my normal boxing training too. I work out 6 days a week (3-weight training, 3-boxing training). Here's what I eat on a typical day;
    -Bowl of oats
    -4 eggs and 3 slices of bacon (grilled on George Foreans's Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine- it's good!) with fat trimmed off
    - 1 pint skimmed milk
    -1 apples, 1 orange
    -Bowl of oats
    -rice with chopped up chicken breast
    -1 protein shake
    -2 eggs and bowl of beans
    -1 apple ,1 orange
    - 1 main dinner (can be anything but low in fat high in protein)
    -1 protein shake
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Would you say this was enough calories? And/or do you think I'm overtraining myself? All comments welcome. Cheers.
    Hey bro...how close are you to 175#? I say this because if I was in your position I might consider the move down to lightheavyweight. If you would only have to dump less than 8-10 lbs. i say it's worth going for, depending on your age (easier if you're younger) and overall body fat %. If you are like a real lean (3-5%) tall cruiserweight and you are like 185 or so, then it would be tough, but if you're a little puffy and around 180-183 or so then it shouldn't be too much trouble...just crank up the road work and crank down the calories. That's just my thought on the subject, because I am a lightheavy myself. I normally walk around at about 178-179 but have no trouble making weight for a fight and I'm 33 yrs. old...the amateurs weight limits might be slightly different but the overall idea is the same. Train hard, and good luck either way.

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    Cut back on your cardio, and you will gain weight. Once the weight has been gained, increase your cardio. Look to eat foods like pasta, and foods filled with protein. When your lifting, do exercises that can really bulk you up, like the bench press, dead lift, and lat pull down. But BEWARE, when bulking up you should remember to keep your flexibility and speed.

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    Bulk

    Thankyou for all your replies. I weigh about 182lbs(13 stone) so I agree that moving down a weight to light-heavy would be easier, but that would mean a drop in my musclemass, and we don't want that do we?!! I do include Bench press and deadlift in my weight training ( I never used to do deadlifts- already I feel alot stronger from doing them). I think I can conclude from the replies that to move up a weight I need to a) eat more and b) reduce cardio. Thankyou again for you replies.
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    I would not do squats. Some people feel that if done correctly, squats won't put pressure on your knees, but I don't do them do to the type of fighting/boxing style I use. I need to be able to slip punches, and duck under my oponent, I feel that squats would put uneeded pressure on my joints. But anyway, some people feel that squats can help pack on the pounds.

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    I would either, as southpaw said, reduce weight, Or I would just start eating more food. I would NOT reduce cardio. personally I wouldnt reduce any of the workout you currently have. If you are working out 6 days a week, you're going to stay in great shape. Your preparing yourself for a fight, so lessening your workout doesnt make sense to me. It's pretty easy to eat more food. But if you decide to go up in weight, you will be fighting people that feel naturally more comfortable at that weight range. That could be dangerous if your not in great shape.
    Reducing weight would probably be more to your advantage.

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    squats = better than supplements

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    Ready2Rumble...at 182 pounds, you are close to the amateur wieight limit for light heavy 178, I think. It all depends on how lean you are now as in % body fat. also, you don't have to drop too much to make weight, and you can always dry out a little bit before a fight as well, I don't recommend more than a couple of pounds, but it is an acceptable practice. Just be sure and rehydrate before your bout. as far as losing muscle goes, ou have fat to lose, then you can eat well and supplement with quality protein drinks, while slightly reducing overall caloric intake and fats. It looks as if you are training well, so upping the volume might be tricky in order to avoid overdoing it. Keep in mind that the slower you get the weight off, the better you will feel, as you are likely to be more sore from training while limiting your caloric intake. lastly, in order to promote a good metabolic environment, you should eat small meals frequently (5-6 times a day) that way you have a steady supply of calories without overloading your system at any one time. It goes without saying that you should try to limit soda, sweets, high fat foods/snacks and heavily processed foods as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanReady2Rmble
    Thankyou for all your replies. I weigh about 182lbs(13 stone) so I agree that moving down a weight to light-heavy would be easier, but .


    You're nuts. You should move down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lathan
    I would not do squats. Some people feel that if done correctly, squats won't put pressure on your knees, but I don't do them do to the type of fighting/boxing style I use. I need to be able to slip punches, and duck under my oponent, I feel that squats would put uneeded pressure on my joints. But anyway, some people feel that squats can help pack on the pounds.


    Should be doing squats in any case.
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