What advantages do you think boxers have against other martial arts

[Warrior189]

What you think boxers have advantages on against other martial arts? I think its that they hit harder, have faster foot work and more stamia then other martial arts. What do you think?

[Hardball]

That's an easy one. It's their training regiment. Sparring, Jumping rope, heavy bag, speed bag, road work, shadow boxing, medicine ball..................etc.etc.etc

[Thai Bri]

They don't fook about kidding themselevs, by punching thin air and doing Kata and pretending that it takes 10 years to get to the "secrets".

Mix Boxing with Judo and you have an art better than each and every mainstream traditional martial art put together.

[LoneWolf1]

Boxing is just the most practical way to strike. Even if you are good at karate, TKD what ever when u apply it in a fight it pretty much becomes boxing. I like traditional MA and mostly pratice them but when i really need to fight I stick to boxing style punches, some elbows ect whatever else I can borrow and use when the momement is right.

[EmptyneSs]

boxing also makes u tough and tenacious. u are forced to fight and get better, because if u dont, ur gonna get beat up.

[Tom Yum]

Bri & Emtyness nailed it.

[Louie Boy]

We, boxers, hit harder than them. And basically, we are tougher than them.

[Garland]

Ah...but here's an interesting question...who's tougher, a boxer, or a muay thai kickboxer???
c'mon kids, lets here it!

[Tom Yum]

apples 'n oranges.

In my very humble opinion, the individual not the styl determines who is tougher. As to who would win, you can check out some recent K-1 fights in the last couple of years that have pitted good professional boxers against K-1's best.

[Garland]

Yeah...about that, when's Tyson gonna fight?
I heard he was training for K-1.
But maybe he switched his focus to Bob Sapp and PRIDE.

[Thai Bri]

Ah, but Kickboxers and Thai Boxers are still boxers - undergoing very similar punishing training methods. They are apples and apples.

Its the Kata loving air punching pyjama wearing kiai shouting "fighters" who need to learn from this......

[HtTKar]

Its the Kata loving air punching pyjama wearing kiai shouting "fighters" who need to learn from this

Thats funny.

I dont think boxers have any advantages over other martial artists. They just train harder. It seems to me that most other martial arts are all about learning "secrets" to give them an advantage. The fact is in a fight, neither has an advantage over another, unless one has a weapon. A boxer knows that he will not have an advantage in a fight, and has to train as hard as possible. Many other martial artist think that a technique they practiced in class is going to be advantageous to them. Its just not true.

[Garland]

Originally Posted by HtTKar

Thats funny.

I dont think boxers have any advantages over other martial artists. They just train harder. It seems to me that most other martial arts are all about learning "secrets" to give them an advantage. The fact is in a fight, neither has an advantage over another, unless one has a weapon. A boxer knows that he will not have an advantage in a fight, and has to train as hard as possible. Many other martial artist think that a technique they practiced in class is going to be advantageous to them. Its just not true.

Neither has an advantage? Hmmmm...okay, here is where I have to step in. All men and women are not created equal. Size, strength, agility, calm and demeanor, agression/heart, dexterity, speed, perserverance, and of course, knowledge all are advantagous.
If someone who is knowledgeable and skilled in a legit art and has great physical and mental attributes, they will be very difficult to beat in their given range, and depending on their level of perserverance and intellegence when it comes to a real fight, might find ways to overcome obstacles.
This is how a pure guts person can fight and win against a skilled grappler on the street, by finding ways or making their own to lead the situation. This could also account for Kazushi Sakuraba's wins over many of the Gracies...calm and brutal resourcefulness on top of what could be considered inferior technique.

Of course...take a look at pele landi and vanderlei silva.....excellent technique, resourceful fighters, intellegent, calculating, and very, very agressive.

Some of these attributes can be taught or worked on in the gym, but some are either natural, or learned via hard-core experience. Lets call this "flight time" because it's time spent on your way to the destination of becoming an excellent fighter.

If a Karate or Kung fu guy goes out onto the street and fights randomly, or enters mixed art competitions...he will have to change his methods and techniques in order to survive and in order to win.
Boxers have this mentality, and the science of boxing, muay thai, and all other combat sports, judo, jui-jitsu and kyokushin karate teach these things...
And because of this method of thought in their teaching...they have evolved to be very effective and efficient in their techniques and ring and street strategies.

Okay...but here is where I say boxers have a disadvantage...grappling. Get a boxer on his back, and generally, there out of water and out of luck.
They also do much more poorly than an FMA or Kali guy in a stick or a knife fight. (or any edged or impact weapon, think broken bottles, baseball bats, pool cues, police batons, etc.)

Everyone has their range, but boxers, muay thai guys, mma fighters, and high impact or high intensity FMA guys a'la Sayoc or Dog bro's guys excel to the point where they can dominate their field enough to equalize the other ranges (and to some point kyokushin guys...if you don't punch them in the head )

[Shoot]

Simplicity. Boxing is simple and natural. Therefore, the techniques chain together easily and rapidly. I don't think other striking techniques, such as kicks, elbows, or knees flow together as rapidly and greasy fast as punches or other hand strikes. Also, boxing works well in real world fights because in real world fights people tackle and grapple. Boxing theory is based on keeping a strong base with both feet on the ground to guard against tackles and grappling. That was the reason people like Figg did not develop kicking like the French did in their boxing, Savate. The idea was to give up kicking which throws off balance and commits a person, thus making them susceptible to takedowns. Further, Boxing is long range (step and punch) and close range (clinch fighting). You can box in a restroom stall, an alley, a field, in a stair well etc... Boxing comes naturally and requires no strained memorization.

The draw back to boxing is that everybody can box to some degree. Anybody in good shape could make a worthy adversary in a slug match. That's why it's so important to know how to grapple and take a man to the ground where you can box from a superior position. (not to mention you should know what to do if you get tackled or pushed down).

Lastly, boxing gets you in shape. Being strong, athletic, agile, and durable puts a person 50% or more to being as safe as they can be. The fact is that people have fighting instincts that work well without any training. Just being in better shape and more aggressive than your adversary goes a long way. Boxing helps get you in that kind of shape.

[Tom Yum]

Originally Posted by Shoot

The draw back to boxing is that everybody can box to some degree. Anybody in good shape could make a worthy adversary in a slug match. That's why it's so important to know how to grapple and take a man to the ground where you can box from a superior position. (not to mention you should know what to do if you get tackled or pushed down).

Lastly, boxing gets you in shape. Being strong, athletic, agile, and durable puts a person 50% or more to being as safe as they can be. The fact is that people have fighting instincts that work well without any training. Just being in better shape and more aggressive than your adversary goes a long way. Boxing helps get you in that kind of shape.

Hey man, I mostly agree with you.

I've seen people get into fights and throw 20 sloppy punches and at worse bruise the other guys cheeks. On the other hand, there are some bombers that also have no skill but can put their weight into their punch that allways go for that one punch that decks the other guy.

I think boxing makes you a more efficient fighter. 200 rounds of full-speed, spontaneous contact sparring against fighters of different builds/abilities will prepare you better physically and psychologically for fighting compared to practicing against compliant, one-punch choreographed sequences.