Flicker Jabs

[Piston]

How does one perform a flicker jab? I've seen them being used quite effectively and I'm curious on how exactly you throw them and when is the best time to use them?

[Mike Brewer]

I'm assuming that you're talking about the type of loose, "speed only" jab thrown by folks like Muhammad Ali? If that's the case:

Jabs on the outside should be thrown often, at the face, nose, eyes, chin, neck, chest, shoulders or even the opponent's gloves. Score if you can, obviously, but if there's no clear opening, just aim at his shoulders, forearms, gloves - whatever. The purpose is not to hurt the man, but to keep him occupied with what you're doing, and thus denying him the chance to think ahead to what he wants to do to you. When you jab, he is forced to deal with the jab. When you lay off and give him space, he's free to ponder how to best set you up and counter you. The flicking type of jab that you're asking about (I presume) is exactly that - a way to keep the other man occupied, and to keep the initiative for yourself.

It is also used as a basic rangefinder. It's fast, so it tends to get there when other punches may not. This allows you to do two things. First, it lets you figure out how much you'll need to move to land other shots. Second, it shows you what the opponent is likely to do when you throw, meaning you can better gauge his reactions and plan your counters. Further, it specifically does little damage, so many opponents won't bother with it too much. That's another veteran fighter ploy, and it is misunderstood and vastly underused. Many fighters feel the need to throw every punch with the same ferocity and intent - like every punch that lands should be capable of a knockout. On the surface, that seems like an okay idea, but the facts are not always superficial. A good fighter will vary his intensity, speed, intent, power, etc., much like a pitcher in baseball varies his pitches. Like a pitcher, he realizes that it's not just speed that gets the ball past the batter, but also timing and angles. Fighters should pay attention to that. A quick jab might have the startle effect of making an opponent plant his feet and pop his hands up quickly to cover up. If that's the case, it sets up for a body shot. If that body shot is then thrown with only enough "juice" to pop the guy's belly, but not enough to really hurt him, then he may instinctively bring his elbows down to cover up the body. Then, since the fighter wasn't too overcommitted to the body shot, he can really tune up and crank in a solid hook to the jaw. Pure speed (flicking jab) sets his feet, light or moderate hook sets his guard, and then the power (only one of the three blows) finishes him off.

Summary:
The flicking jab -

1. Keeps the opponent occupied by denying him initiative
2. Sets up other punches in a combination
3. Acts as a rangefinder and "reaction tester"

[JkD187]

Go watch Ryo Mashiba and you'll see what a Flicker jab is really like!!!

[Mike Brewer]

Wanna provide a link? If he's a better example than Muhammad Ali, I really do need to see him!

[white devil]

Ryo Mashiba is a cartoon character based on Thomas Hearns

[Garland]

Originally Posted by Piston

How does one perform a flicker jab? I've seen them being used quite effectively and I'm curious on how exactly you throw them and when is the best time to use them?

Somebody watched Hajime no Ippo.

[Garland]

I like holding the hand out there and tracing the chin when they bob and weave, to set up for heavy rights.

[Piston]

Originally Posted by Garland

Somebody watched Hajime no Ippo.

I've just done a search for that over on youtube, and its not bad for an anime. The thought processes that take several years in a fight that lasts 5 minutes are funny as hell.

[Garland]

Originally Posted by Piston

I've just done a search for that over on youtube, and its not bad for an anime. The thought processes that take several years in a fight that lasts 5 minutes are funny as hell.

watch all 76 episodes and all 3 movies>? that shit is like cartoon crack. check out grappler baki. do it.

[white devil]

3 movies ...arent there only 2?

and the fact that hajime no ippo is so good is that it's actually using true facts..its just a little bit exagerated..

like the dempsey roll or the gazelle punch for say..but every technique and term is actually true and realisticly correct.

[DickHardman]

is this guy talking about the double jab?

[darkmikasonfire]

it's actually fairly easy to do, in the TV series Hajime no Ippo, it's a bit over done, people can actually beat someone with that move, as stated above it's meant to keep someone busy those type of hits sting but don't really hurt you would have to be able to hit someone with that move continuously for a whole round or two then you could possibly hit them in the arms enough that they would possibly be beaten enough that they couldn't defend a strong attack any longer. it's a fairly simple attack though, you put your arm down at a right angle with the horizontal part at your waist, giver yourself a little forward backward movement usually only one or two times, then just jab fast and pull back, jab pull back, just do it over and over just a really quick jab from your front waist after the first jab you just hit them over and over from wherever your hand is. another way it's used is to shock the opponent jarring them for a second or two with how fast you are then moving in and beating on them with stronger harder hits. only use it if you're faster than your opponent, if they can dodge two or three of them in a row then you're going to be hit with a counter, but if you know you can hit them over and over with it without them dodging then either one will work for a while at least, every now and then throw in a strong hit to mess the person up (only if you're doing it for a long time like near a whole round). but in all areas a flicker jab is not something you want to use often, they can backfire on you since you can't backhand anyone you could screw up swinging from the sides of the person and backhand them if you're not careful, also if you hit the same areas in a rhythm they'll get use to it and start to dodge them. it's just not a good attack, it's better as a defensive technique, to keep them away from you so you don't get much damage, kind of like a clinch.

[Liberty]

Originally Posted by white devil

Ryo Mashiba is a cartoon character based on Thomas Hearns

You idiot - LMAO! Good one! Nothing like a bit of unexpected curve-ball stupidity timed so beutifully it achieves great laughter. Nice - I mean that as the highest, and most grateful compliment - for making me laugh. My hat's off to ya. Oh, wait, I don't wear a hat. Oh, well... good one nonetheless!

[darkmikasonfire]

Originally Posted by Liberty

You idiot - LMAO! Good one! Nothing like a bit of unexpected curve-ball stupidity timed so beutifully it achieves great laughter. Nice - I mean that as the highest, and most grateful compliment - for making me laugh. My hat's off to ya. Oh, wait, I don't wear a hat. Oh, well... good one nonetheless!

that comment didn't make any sense could you please explain it? it wasn't that stupid of a comment he had it slightly wrong that character wasn't based off of anyone, it was the technique he used that was based off of Thomas Hearns technique. so why is it you call him stupid? if i have made any mistakes in grammar or spelling please do not hold it against me English isn't my first language. as for you beutifully should be beautifully you forgot to add the a in there. as for him being stupid look at your comment it had nothing to do with this subject at all it was just to trash talk someone, who would be more stupid someone who had their facts a little wrong or a person who hasn't the ability to talk to people politely, whilst not knowing anything about the subject being talked about, next time please keep your downer comments to yourself especially when you know not the subject material.

[Mike Brewer]

Liberty just got owned for his English by someone who isn't even a native speaker!

WAHHHH-hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha!