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I can throw a fairly quick and hard jab, but it doesn't earn the same respect as my cross or hook.
When it lands, it hits solidly causing my opponents head to rattle a little, still standing in the same place, but the effect I want is to be able to rock that head back and cause my opponent to stagger backward - allowing me some forward momentum and time to work the inside...like Sugar Ray Leondard does in the clip that Mike posted. I've got a 70" reach, but I'm also 70" tall (5'10") which is shorter than ideal for boxers of my height - which may have something to do with it? I'm not sure if its a body mechanics issue or just an arm-power issue; I can pop the pads/bag decently with crosses and hooks having my legs and weight behind them; in sparring my hooks and crosses seem to send 'em back and sometimes puts the n00bs onto one knee. I'd like to have a more devastating jab. With the information given above, can anyone help me take it to the next step? I have the fundamentals to set up a jab - using fakes, double, triple-jabbing and changing levels - I try to change up timing as well but it needs input from a more experienced/knowledgeable boxer? Help a fellow member out. Thanks!
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if your mechanics are right, the only thing you can really focus on now is developing as much hip power as possible as you deliver your jab, and also really conditioning your hands and making them harder/denser.
also, focusing on speed can increase your power as well. |
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I feel like I'm trying to thrust the jab through the target rather than snap it, like you would a towel...
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If it gets any harder, it won't be a jab.
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Tom,
Your jab can be a fight winner in the street, but it's really the set-up punch. Don't try to use a hammer like a wrench! The jab is for setting a guy up - the piquador - while the power punches are for putting the guy away - the matadors. In the street, aim your jab at the eyes and nose to cause sharp pain and bleeding. Jabs can cause cuts pretty easily, and that's to your advantage in a short fight. In the ring, just keep blasting it all over the guy's face, hands, shoulders, forearms - wherever. One of the things a jab is great for in the ring is fatiguing the guy's neck muscles. Tensing against those jabs to keep his head in the same place like you described will wear a fella out. Then the crosses, hooks, and uppercuts will pay dividends, because the guy won't have the same resilience or ability to brace for the impact. With the jab, just keep touching the guy. Keep it hitting him. It almost doesn't even matter where. If you can be a sniper with it, super. If not, just hit! You'll make holes, and you'll keep him from attacking you. Those two things ought to be plenty, but if they're not, rest assured that your jab will also hide your footwork and keep the opponent from getting "set." All that goes away, however, if you try to make it a power punch. |
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Not if it means sacrificing the mechanics of the punch behind it. If you lob everything you can into a jab, you may well be throwing your hips, legs, shoulders out of position to follow up with true power punches.
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Thanks guys, thanks Mike. I'll keep these things in mind!
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I trained with Josh Odom of the IFL a few times and he showed me some pointers. One of the things he showed me was the lunging jab, which is exactly as the name implies. You throw some quick jabs and to mix it up you take a deeper step when you throw that jab, that way it pops his head back and unbalances him, giving you time to work the inside. Hope that helps!
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