Punching without gloves, which knuckles to use?

[Middleweight]

Originally Posted by Tant01

"Just like in Judo..."
Really?

In JUDO a black belt only means you're ready to teach BEGINNERS.

If you ever cross paths with a serious 3 dan or higher you'll understand the difference. You don't get rank in organized sport by beating up anyone and swiping their obi.

But you can usually find a club that will let you try.

LOL. A strong agile brown belter is tough enough.

Hey, the US Marines learn stuff in 13 totally intense weeks. This stuff works real good. Put that together with a season in a decent boxing club, and you are good to go.

In the street, If I had to choose; I'd rather scrap a black belt karateka, than a Marine just back from active combat duty.

Judo rules. Works great. I know very little of it, though

[Middleweight]

Originally Posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3

the two smaller knuckles on the outside are the ones that hurt me, my two bigger knuckles on the inside are the ones that hurt you.

Please see my post number 45. Sorry I am lousy at this quotes thing. It will improve though

Real lousy. This (post 45) is my reply to post number one

[Middleweight]

Originally Posted by Michael Wright

Its a good question actually.

When you box for any period of time, especially if you wrap and tape your hands and wear 14oz or 16oz gloves to spar with, it can become deceptive. A number of boxers (including Mike Tyson) have broken their hands in streetfights because they didn't form a full fist and hit with the correct part of the hand (though I'm sure the other guy didn't come off too great either)

If we are talking bare knuckle for SP, then you have major hits and minor hits (to set up the former). Strike with the first two knuckles, usually (for me) with a short right cross, against the tip of the jaw or as close as you can along the jawline, to shake the brain and render the opponent unconscious. The punch doesn't need to travel more than 12 inches and accuracy is far more important than power. That is my major application of boxing tools for a situation outside the ring.

If you need a set up with a minor hit, strike with the middle or outside knuckles to "the button" i.e. the collection of nerves below the nose and just above the mouth. This causes a closing of the eyes, tears, distraction and pain....setting up the main shot to the jaw.

Thats when things go well, but most of the time the fucker usually moves and you hit teeth, cheeks, ears and hair. But thats fun too

Use the left jab and land it anywhere you can, except on the eyebrows or above. hard to pick spots... just hit the guy and throw them in bunches... 3 in a row = good. I aim for under the nost too: center of face... miss and hit the chin is ok

If you 'see' the low ribs, then hit them hard. Risky to go 'downstairs' though.

Anyone who thinks street fighting is fun needs re-think.

Please use wisdom... = Far better to be wise and live; than foolish and die for nothing more than ego fulfillment

p.s. 5 mins later: I just read your profile. There isn't much I can tell you

[Middleweight]

Originally Posted by Michael Wright

That comes down to how you set up the pre-fight.

By the time I'm ready to throw a punch, the person is already mentally and emotionally disarmed, usually (and because of the way I look and act) they have underestimated me, so I play to that. I'm the guy who feigns weakness, who doesn't want trouble, but has already decided than you have crossed the line, and you are a threat.

When I know the time to act comes I will ask a question to engage the person's mid brain, causing confusion, and giving me a window of entry. The more random the better. "Did you fuckk my goat?", as taught to me by one of my students, works a treat.

Like I said, the punch will travel no further than 12 inches, from outside of the tunnel vision caused by adrenaline. If your initiaition speed is right and the set up is correct, the only muscle reaction that can respond quickly enough if it sees the blow is the eyelid, closing the eyes as a reflex, and making the job easier.

As I say to people all the time, there is a lot more to self protection than punches and kicks.

With post 11 = excellent

[martial09k]

I just watch this video on speed training, punching wthout gloves i think it's cool man..here's the link: http://www.pragmaticmartialarts.com/...hp?topic=208.0