Boxing against someone taller and more experienced

[RaDeuX]

Well I have been boxing with one of my friends recently. In the last few spars he hit me pretty hard. The second to the last spar his first left hook hit me square in the nose and I fell down only ten seconds into the round. He's talking about our sparring sessions to other people and it's pretty embarrasing. We are about the same strength in terms of weightlifting, but he does have a few advantages over me.

1.) He is about 6-8 inches taller than me (so he has better range)
2.) He is left handed
3.) He has more experience (never boxed officially, just practiced with others)
4.) He is decent at reading my body language and dodging my punches
5.) Body shots don't seem to hurt him at all.
6.) He doesn't really flinch when he gets hit (Whereas I get pretty nervous when I'm about to get hit)

...And the list goes on.

For my advantages though...

1.) I DEFINITELY have better cardiovascular fitness than him (so I back off very often)
2.) I can rush in pretty well I suppose (but he just keeps blocking his face and body shots don't phase him)

So my plan next time is to rush in from an angle. If I go straight inside I'm just going to become a prey to his massive left hooks that stun me for a little bit. If I shift over to his right side, it would take more time for his left hook to travel over to my face. I can block it with my left palm, and then when he's open I can either uppercut him or jab him with my right.

He also does this annoying thing where he holds out his left hand straight at me to keep his distance. I try right hooking his left rib or under where his armpit is, but he simply steps out of the way when I try to do so. Maybe if I could knock it downward I could set up for an attack... Or so I think. I doubt his shoulder strength can withstand a downward blow on his left glove even if he IS left handed.

Also, the thing that annoys me most is when I finally find an opening to rush in, he puts up his gloves and keeps guarding his face. In the meantime I just jab at the back of his head or his ribs, but like I said bodyshots don't do anything to him. It doesn't affect me either, but it just depends where the blows are exchanged. Maybe I'm not aiming correctly at his body. Rather, I don't really aim at all and just swing wildly at his sides when I get the chance.

Boxing is really fun though. I never thought I'd be immersed into so much strategy. I think it'd also be really cool to learn how Pernell Whitaker is able to dodge so many attacks. He's my number one idol as of right now.

[LtMedTB]

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

1.) He is about 6-8 inches taller than me (so he has better range)

Reach helps.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

2.) He is left handed

So he's a southpaw? Be grateful for this experience. You might even want to learn how to switch leads.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

3.) He has more experience (never boxed officially, just practiced with others)

What experience do you have?

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

4.) He is decent at reading my body language and dodging my punches

That's definitely a big part of the problem. What are you doing to telegraph?

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

5.) Body shots don't seem to hurt him at all.

That's unfortunate. If you hug the belt and work the body against a taller opponent his reach can't help him. Are you keeping your elbows in tight, sinking in, and turning your body to maximize the power of your body shots?

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

6.) He doesn't really flinch when he gets hit (Whereas I get pretty nervous when I'm about to get hit)

You're letting him beat you mentally.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

1.) I DEFINITELY have better cardiovascular fitness than him (so I back off very often)

Why? Isn't that just letting him rest? Remember it's not just aerobic, it's also anaerobic. Cardiovascular fitness helps, but it's not everything. You have to train both energy systems.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

2.) I can rush in pretty well I suppose (but he just keeps blocking his face and body shots don't phase him)

He can't block his face and hit you at the same time, right? So work his body and when he let's off his guard give him an uppercut.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

So my plan next time is to rush in from an angle. If I go straight inside I'm just going to become a prey to his massive left hooks that stun me for a little bit. If I shift over to his right side, it would take more time for his left hook to travel over to my face. I can block it with my left palm, and then when he's open I can either uppercut him or jab him with my right.

You're definitely better off to his outside if he's a southpaw and you're not, and you definitely need to watch his left hook. When you do go inside, you need to be compact, crouched, and tight. Be ready with the bob and weave and be ready to protect your head. Above all, "get there first".

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

He also does this annoying thing where he holds out his left hand straight at me to keep his distance.

Just like on the playground? Are you saying that he's a southpaw but he's holding you off with his rear hand? Good! Takes his left hook out of commission.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

I try right hooking his left rib or under where his armpit is, but he simply steps out of the way when I try to do so. Maybe if I could knock it downward I could set up for an attack... Or so I think. I doubt his shoulder strength can withstand a downward blow on his left glove even if he IS left handed.

I'd have to see the two of you fight to offer any more suggestions, but it sure sounds like you'd be better off crowding him, staying tight, and transitioning from body blows to uppercuts.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

Also, the thing that annoys me most is when I finally find an opening to rush in, he puts up his gloves and keeps guarding his face. In the meantime I just jab at the back of his head or his ribs, but like I said bodyshots don't do anything to him. It doesn't affect me either, but it just depends where the blows are exchanged. Maybe I'm not aiming correctly at his body. Rather, I don't really aim at all and just swing wildly at his sides when I get the chance.

Hahaha! Well, yes. That could be part of the problem. Work on your technique. Don't swing wildly. Stay tight and compact.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

Boxing is really fun though. I never thought I'd be immersed into so much strategy. I think it'd also be really cool to learn how Pernell Whitaker is able to dodge so many attacks. He's my number one idol as of right now.

Then work on the slip and the bob and weave!

Good luck.

[RaDeuX]

He's left handed, but he's not southpaw. Still, his left hooks are pretty massive even if his lead foot is his left...

As far as MY experience goes, pretty much none.

I'm not sure exactly what I'm telegraphing to him. Maybe I'm not moving fast enough, or using enough faints or jabs. I guess I should vary the strength behind each strike.

I suppose it's because of my sloppy technique that my friend never gets hurt from body shots. I'm not sure what it means to "sink in" the elbows though.

Whenever I try to reach around on his outside, he just steps back. I should rush in while he's backing away so he'll lose all his momentum.

And what is a good way to work on the slip/bob/weave? I know one way is to continuously bob up and down left and right under a string about the same height of where the bottom of your chin would be.

[LtMedTB]

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

He's left handed, but he's not southpaw. Still, his left hooks are pretty massive even if his lead foot is his left...

So his advantage in this particular case is that his lead hand is his strong hand. Nothing wrong with that. It's exactly why Bruce Lee preferred a right lead. Regardless, you don't have to make any special modifications for fighting a southpaw. You can just match his footwork.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

As far as MY experience goes, pretty much none.

Your "friend" doesn't help you? Rather, he talks about your sparring sessions with other people to make you feel embarrassed? Are you sure this man is your friend? Sounds more like a "frenemy". It's really not a very good idea to spar with zero training. On the plus side, you've got nowhere to go but "up". You're guaranteed to learn a lot from the basics. After that, gains are harder to achieve.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

I'm not sure exactly what I'm telegraphing to him. Maybe I'm not moving fast enough, or using enough faints or jabs. I guess I should vary the strength behind each strike.

Sometimes it's hard to know exactly what you're doing wrong without a good coach. Everyone telegraphs in some way, especially in the beginning. It could be a facial expression. It could be a crouch, or bobbing your hands, or cocking your fist. Practice in front of a mirror.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

I suppose it's because of my sloppy technique that my friend never gets hurt from body shots. I'm not sure what it means to "sink in" the elbows though.

Not "sink in the elbows" although your elbows should be in tight to guard your ribs while your fists protect your head. Rather, sink into your stance for more power as you turn your body into the hooks.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

Whenever I try to reach around on his outside, he just steps back. I should rush in while he's backing away so he'll lose all his momentum.

Since he's not a southpaw, you're referring to his left side here? I'm a little confused in light of this comment from your previous post:

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

If I shift over to his right side, it would take more time for his left hook to travel over to my face. I can block it with my left palm, and then when he's open I can either uppercut him or jab him with my right.

If he's a tall left hander in a left lead with a strong left hook, why help him out by moving to his right? You'll need a better plan than blocking with your lead left palm. You'll get killed like that. You're better off leading with a left jab to his body, staying compact, getting under his left hook with a bob and weave, and coming over the top with a big overhand right. However, I would caution you against further sparring with this "friend" until you get some basics down.

Originally Posted by RaDeuX

And what is a good way to work on the slip/bob/weave? I know one way is to continuously bob up and down left and right under a string about the same height of where the bottom of your chin would be.

Your chin while you're crouched or your chin while you're standing? Just make sure it's low enough that you have to "earn" it. I think focus mitts are a great tool for learning the bob and weave, but of course you need a partner for that. Is there a boxing gym in your area?

[Bill_1]

Is it a boxing only fight? Can you take it to the ground?

[RaDeuX]

When I said whenever I try to reach around on his outside, I was referring to his left side.

And from my knowledge, I don't know any boxing gyms in my area. But it seems like the most critical thing to work on is my slip/bob/weave.

And yes, this is only a boxing fight with no takedowns.

[Bjjexpertise@be]

If you're putting your weight behind those body shots, they definitely do take the wind out of you and might even drop you. Aim for the solar plexus, kidneys, and the liver. Make sure you're pivoting when you're punching and put your weight into it. Otherwise, join a boxing gym :-\.

[Ghost]

join your local boxing club, it will solve your problem.

[martial09k]

For me height and experience doesnt matter, paquiao defeated DLH....

[KenshiRyan]

use your advantages against him, looks for his faults and use them to bring him down.

[eye l l sac]

pick his jab so it will throw him out of rhythm then work on getting inside...even try to throw him up on the ropes if he is not very good at slipping.

[Middleweight]

I have a great suggestion for you:

Find a boxing club in your town. Look for one that has good coaching. TRAIN. After even 5 months, you will be schooled enough to train on your own a lot, and won't develop bad habits.

You probably do what most amateurs do. Just before they let the right hand go, it drops a touch. Easy read. Also, snap the jab, and don't underestimate it's value. You can frustrate an opponent with a good jab, as he can never really get 'set' to attack.

Don't stand still

[ddddyyyy]

I agree with RaDeuX










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[russBboxin]

Originally Posted by Ghost

join your local boxing club, it will solve your problem.

++1 you guys should try learning some technique it goes a long way, and you will have someone to supervise you at a gym and point out to you what is going on while it is actually happening.(not to mention all the safety equipment you should be using I really hope you are using mouth pieces and head gear minimum, and if your smart groin protectors) if you just keep gettting beaten on by your friend all you are doing is learning how to take an ass whipping and learning that and getting comfortable with it isnt very conducive to winning fights or competitions. OH and the person that said size reach doesnt matter must not have boxed much just because pacquiao beat Oscar doesnt mean everyone else can pull that stuff off. size and build does go a long way in determining the way you will fight your opponents in a boxing ring. if you have a shorter but maybe stronger opponent you will keep them outside jab, move and work the straight right make them eat punches trying to get inside, shorter guys working against taller guys like wise are going to try bobbing and weaving get inside work the body and alternate body, head, head body shots. and if they are similar build you just do your thang.

[russBboxin]

Originally Posted by martial09k

For me height and experience doesnt matter, paquiao defeated DLH....

maybe you mean height and expirience didnt matter for paquiao? because unless your paquiao it WILL make a huge difference for you.