Right hook??

[binski20]

For an orthodox boxer, does it exist?
I have been trained not to throw the right hook, just a left, but have seen it used by some professional fighters.
Is this just a preference of my coach, or is it really non existent?

[rocknrollrjm]

It definitely exists. What would your coach call a body shot that's thrown with the right or even...... believe me, it's a real and valid punch. Are you sure you're understanding your coach, maybe he/she's just waiting to show you that one.

[binski20]

he has always said in left you in too awkward of a position. i like to use it anyway, it's my ko punch

[RishDog]

Hey don't think i am stupid, but othordox is when you have your left side as your lead side? IS that the common side? I am more comfortable with my right side lead than my left side.

[binski20]

ya thats right. your a southpaw then.

by the way, it's nice to see this board active!

[RishDog]

which stance is the more common stance? and what determines the stance, is it just on the person? I am left handed you see, does that mean anything? Even though i am left handed, i do some stuff better with my right side (like punching)

[binski20]

Orthodox is the more common stance simply because there is more right handers than left handers.
Most of the time it depends on which hand you are. What you want, is to have your strong hand as your rear hand, for your power shots.
That's usually the case. Some people prefer to have their stronger, more dominant hand up front, which is something I am experimenting with now.
Go with what is comfortable for you. If it is awkward you sure as hell don't want to be using it to box.

[RishDog]

thanks binski, that helped alot!

[Thadiius]

IMO the right hook (thrown from an orthodox stance) is a punch that leaves you very vunerable, me personaly i wouldn't throw it unless i was very close to my opponent. I see pros use it sometimes, but they generaly throw it to finsih someone off. But it's good to train that punch anyway.

[binski20]

That's my thoughts as well. It does create a very awkward position and requires alot of reaching. On the inside however, it can be an amazing thing.

[yenhoi]

The mechanics of a rear hook are more complex then those of a lead hook, cross, or jab IMO.

Remember, any punch that you throw leaves you open somewhere, some more then others, but some punches are more appropriate at different times then others.

Your instructor most definitly has his reasons for restricting the use of the rear hook - who can really speculate besides you. There is probably tons of stuff, big things and little things that he hasent shown you yet, and doesnt plan to real soon. The quickest way to -get- to the things he doesnt want you worring about now, is to do and practice the things he tells you too, and not do or practice the things he tells you not to.

Things to remember with the rear hook, as with all commitments:

Stick and move. Dont throw a punch and then stand there to get clocked where you ARE open.

Get back to ready position. Whatever this is, if your a left lead or a right lead or some random silly ****, get back on guard.

Dont look down. Look at your opponent, watch for movement, general motion, retraction.

Move you silly ****. Move, move, and move.

[sakuraba fan]

Right hook? right hook is great, just not when you are at a distance. if you are good at slipping punches you can use it when coming in... or counter punch. it works good when you duck and come back up with a short crisp right but you have to throw it with power and not just an arm punch. a very good compination if you are fast enough is a double hook one to body then up to head with same hand.......more than likely used as a counter or if they over extend any of their punches you can slip in side with it

[RishDog]

Curious:

Do you guys prefer to hook with your first verticle (palm facing you) or horizontally (palm faceing down).

Because i prefer to punch verticle, but some people punch horizontally.

which would be more idea in the streets in regards to not hurting your wrist much???

[ryanhall]

the vertical fist positioning is safer as long as your wrists can handle the force of your punch. throwing the hook with the horizontal will get you a nice "boxer's fracture," i've been told. really depends what what you're comfortable with, but vertical is safer.

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[binski20]

As far as I have learned and practiced, the position of the fist should have mostly to do with the range it is employed at, whichever hand is delivering it.
When the palm is facing down, it would allow for a little bit farther range to be used. When the palm is facing you, this would be a closer range punch.
This is what I have been taught and have found to be true. It is true that you could launch either punch in either range, but I believe that through enough experience training these punches and trading them in the ring, you'll find this to be true.

Of course, if anyone has valid information otherwise, I would be glad to explore and consider it.