The Ultimate in Martial Arts

bigboywasim · 04-06-2008, 07:23 PM

If you have no grappling background then even without the GI you are going to get tossed on your head against a Judo guy. I take boxing and judo apart from many other things. If it is all else even then I have money on the Judo guy. The reason is the judo guy can keep it on the ground once it gets their. The boxer cannot keep it standing. He will fall unless he gets the KO in a quick time period.

One on One grappling is superior to striking.

**Michael Wright** · 04-07-2008, 08:22 AM

In a combat sports environment I completely agree. The grappler will overcome the boxer 8 or 9 times out of ten, gi or no gi, its been proven over and over.

In a street situation my experience is the exact opposite. It starts and ends in conversation range, and punching is king.

Just in my personal experience.

Tom Yum · 04-07-2008, 07:54 PM

Is retard-farmer strength like old man strength?

Tant01 · 04-08-2008, 01:22 PM

There's an old "Iron Man" boxing article that goes into some detail about why and how the "Old School" toughness came about. Need to find it again...

Many of the farmers I know are handy with sharp tools and smart enough to know when they need a bigger hammer.

You can tell by a handshake how strong their hands are...

Tant01 · 04-08-2008, 01:41 PM

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/ironmen.html

This article first appeared in June 2005 at Fightbeat.com

04-06-2008, 07:23 PM	#31 (permalink)
bigboywasim Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California, Sacramento Posts: 396 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you have no grappling background then even without the GI you are going to get tossed on your head against a Judo guy. I take boxing and judo apart from many other things. If it is all else even then I have money on the Judo guy. The reason is the judo guy can keep it on the ground once it gets their. The boxer cannot keep it standing. He will fall unless he gets the KO in a quick time period. One on One grappling is superior to striking. __________________

04-08-2008, 01:22 PM	#34 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,935 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	There's an old "Iron Man" boxing article that goes into some detail about why and how the "Old School" toughness came about. Need to find it again... Many of the farmers I know are handy with sharp tools and smart enough to know when they need a bigger hammer. You can tell by a handshake how strong their hands are... __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

04-08-2008, 01:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
Tant01 Humble Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Ca. USA Posts: 5,935 Groans: 0 Groaned at 15 Times in 10 Posts	http://coxscorner.tripod.com/ironmen.html This article first appeared in June 2005 at Fightbeat.com __________________ "In all countries where personal freedom is valued, however much each individual may rely on legal redress, the right of each to carry arms - and these the best and the sharpest - for his own protection in case of extremity, is a right of nature indelible and irrepressible, and the more it is sought to be repressed the more it will recur." James Paterson

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04-07-2008, 08:22 AM	#32 (permalink)
Michael Wright Premiere Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hertfordshire, UK Posts: 1,201 Groans: 0 Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post	In a combat sports environment I completely agree. The grappler will overcome the boxer 8 or 9 times out of ten, gi or no gi, its been proven over and over. In a street situation my experience is the exact opposite. It starts and ends in conversation range, and punching is king. Just in my personal experience.

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Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	Is retard-farmer strength like old man strength?

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