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Old 07-31-2003, 06:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up New to boxing, come answer my numerous questions!

Ok, I did write a big huge long letter here at first, then the thing messed up and I lost it all But ok, I will give ya the main points.

-I'm 15, live in BC Canada.
-I used to train in TKD, 2nd Degree Black Belt, was competitive in all tournaments I entered
-Played world class hockey as a goalie
-The past two years I was sick with Lyme Disease, making me out of shape. Could lose 7-8 pounds and be healthy.
-Now gonna start boxing, have heavy bag set up here.

I started the boxing and got both main hitting nuckles on both hands nice and skinned. Now feels like my right hand is sprained, thats right, I didnt wrap my hands.

So, now my questions, hopefully I dont forget the ones I lost there...
-How, and with what do I wrap my hands for working the heavy bag with training gloves?
-Is 50-60 mins twice a day hitting the bag enough workout time to get in shape pretty quick?
-I already skip before and after workouts, also am going to start riding stationary bike. Any other excercises I should do?
-Any good drills I should do with the heavy bag? I already do combos, hard kicks, jabs, faints, etc.
-Special diet that would help bulk up and stay trim?
-Anyone know of a good gym and trainer near Vancouver BC that would train a beginner to boxing?
-Have I asked enough questions yet?

Haha, thanks guy!
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Old 07-31-2003, 11:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok, I did write a big huge long letter here at first, then the thing messed up and I lost it all But ok, I will give ya the main points.
Paul... Is that you? There's been a surge of 15 year olds recently and I have a feeling they may be one and the same person... No matter, I'll give you second chance since you've gone to so many heights to stay here.

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-I'm 15, live in BC Canada.
So you say...

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-I used to train in TKD, 2nd Degree Black Belt, was competitive in all tournaments I entered
Everyone has a Black Belt in TKD, but me...

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-Played world class hockey as a goalie
I like football... I played quarterback & corner in high school.

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-The past two years I was sick with Lyme Disease, making me out of shape. Could lose 7-8 pounds and be healthy.
Could be you're just a couch potato...

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-Now gonna start boxing, have heavy bag set up here.
I started the boxing and got both main hitting nuckles on both hands nice and skinned. Now feels like my right hand is sprained, thats right, I didnt wrap my hands.
Drink a beer or two and you won't feel a thing...Just kidding. Few people can hit the heavy bag without wraps... Those who try usually injure their knuckles or more importanly, their wrists... You're best advised to get bag gloves and wraps.

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So, now my questions, hopefully I dont forget the ones I lost there...
-How, and with what do I wrap my hands for working the heavy bag with training gloves?
Obviously, you use hand wraps from the local sporting goods store. It's too hard to explain wrapping with texts... Go to a boxing site or something. However, a simple wrap that I use with my NHB glove is this:

1) Hook loop on thumb while wrap lays on outside of hand.
2) Wrap twice around the wrist.
3) Wrap thumb once.
4) Wrap twice around the knuckles
5) Finish wrapping around the wrist.

A simple wrap I learned from "Boxer's Workout."

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-Is 50-60 mins twice a day hitting the bag enough workout time to get in shape pretty quick?
That's plenty, but I doubt you go 50-60 minutes straight... Most guys go in rounds of 2-3 minutes at a time. Try doing 2-4 rounds at 2-3 minutes each session. Work yourself up.

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-I already skip before and after workouts, also am going to start riding stationary bike. Any other excercises I should do?
Run, run and run... Also, work your abs every chance you get.

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-Any good drills I should do with the heavy bag? I already do combos, hard kicks, jabs, faints, etc.
They're feints, not faints... I hope your not fainting... Throw simple combinations with the basic punches: jab, right, hook & uppercut. Stick and move like you're fighting an opponent. Use footwork. Practice your combos until they can be used in the ring or a situation.

Jab, Right, Hook then Jab move left
Jab, Right, Hook then Double Jab move left
Feint to the body and cross to the chin
R Uppercut, L Hook
Jab, body hook, right, L hook
Feint jab, jab, move right + right cross, L hook

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-Special diet that would help bulk up and stay trim?
Stop eating potato chips on the sofa... Eats lots of protein: Chicken breast, lean beef and turkey—about 1g per body weight. Eat lots of complex carbohydrates: whole wheat bread, real fruits and grain—about 2g per body weight.

Here's my post workout shake:

1 C. ice cubes
1/2 banana
1/2 C. frozen strawberries
3/4 C. egg beaters
1/2 C. Vanilla soy milk
1/2 C. cranberry juice
1/2 C. water

A 25 gr protein drink with the right blend of carbohydrates... Tastes great too!

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-Anyone know of a good gym and trainer near Vancouver BC that would train a beginner to boxing?
Sorry, never been there...

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-Have I asked enough questions yet?
Unfortunately, yes... Hahaha.. Don't mind my sense of humor.
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didnt you email me once about a program? Did you do anythng I ****ing said?
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didnt you email me once about a program? Did you do anythng I ****ing said?
Thor, really? What a waste of time this Wilson turned out to be...
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Yeah Told him the same stuff you exlained but with emphasis on weight lifting too. You need a trainer or at least a sparring partner but whatever.
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Umm guys...I just found this site last night. Indeed, I did have Lyme Disease as many of blood tests prooved. Thanks for the bit of info so far.

PS. When I said I lost the long letter I wrote, I meant a post that I had written pretty much like the one above, but more detailed and when I went to upload a pic and it said it had to be a certain size I pressed back, and then my entire thing I wrote up vanished.

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50-60 minutes hitting the punch bag twice daily is proberly too much. Try it but after 2 weeks or so, start to question 'what are the benefits.'

Here's a little boxing work-out I advise you to do.

1st. Loosen and stretch off.
2nd. 5 mins 3 times (3 sets) skipping.
3rd. 20 mins heavy bag work.
4th. 200 lead arm punches. Hard and continuous. None stop. Keep working on this until you can progress to 500 punches.
5th. Focus mitts. If you have a partner. If you don't
Do this. 15 mins Bag work. Working on Lead jab, right hook, rear jab and upper cutting.
6th. 5 mins 3 sets of skipping.
7th. Shadow boxing.

Additional to this:

If you weight train you want to look into strengthening your shoulders. Hold your guard up does get tiring especially if you Thai box.
You can do this by Military pressing, Side Lateral, Front Lateral and Rear Lateral. Don't be put off is you cannot life as much on Rear Laterals than the other two. Rear Laterals are much harder
for myself and many.

Abs:

Your going to need a strong Solar Plexus to protect you from toughs body shots. So I suggest the following:

Sit-ups. Experiment on these. I have done 1000 Sit-ups. But only twice. I don't make a habit of it. So instead I do 500. Try 100 then progress to advance.

Crunches. A lot of people get confused with Crunches and Sit-ups. They think Crunches are the correct way to do Sit-ups. However this is not true. Crunches are for the higher abs just below you chest (pecks or pectorals).
Crunches are literally a crunch. Your upper body crunches towards your legs in a curved motion. Then in that curved position you hold the crunch.

Legs raise: Simple but affective to build your lower abs.

Gorilla leg raises: Hang off a chinning bar and bring your knees into you chest. Bringing the knees as high as possible.

Side Crunches: These build your Obliques. Lay on your side. Crunch towards your hip and hold it for 3 seconds so you are as close as possible to your hip. Then relax and repeat.

Medicine ball: Sit down with you legs flat so when you rotate so there is no uncomforting in your knees. Hold the ball in your chest crossing your arms over the ball. Start to twist left to right as fast as possible. Its tough but try it. Do 1 min at a continuous pace the puss really hard for 30 seconds fast. Do this 3 sets with 30 second breaks.

Cardio:

Make sure you make a habit of using your exercise bike.
But also start running. Its fun and its good you! You could just do a 30 minutes run or do a Rocky run in Philadelphia. So try it. These are both cardiovascular exercises. The Cardio term comes from the name of your Heart Muscle 'Cardiac.'

Box Jumps: I don't do many of these but they are a personal favourite. Place a Box, shoe box or what ever box practical for this exercise and start jumping over it left to right. This will strengthen your ankles.

You also to use about the beef with your hands. Are you using hand wraps? You can picks them up from any boxing or martial rats shop. Also are you usin
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rear hook and rear jab?

Don't you mean right cross and overhand right.
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Got the hand wraps today guys, I'm gonna try em out tomorrow after the car slaloms I'm goin to. And Paul Wilson, I'm gonna try to do most of what you put in there.

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