The Ultimate in Martial Arts

dkm · 08-18-2003, 06:40 PM

that's what a side note said in this month's Men's Fitness magazine. Hard to believe......but is it true?

**Thai Bri** · 08-20-2003, 06:06 AM

Why is it so hard to believe? Every solid punch costs a few thousand brain cells. And they don't grow back.

Great Sage · 08-20-2003, 01:28 PM

The same can be said of alcoholics...

Roland · 08-20-2003, 01:58 PM

80% of all statistics are made up.

Tom Yum · 08-20-2003, 02:39 PM

and 80% of those made up statistics come from fictional sources.

hashpuppet · 08-21-2003, 12:51 AM

youre all just mad cause we're all retarded

Angel-of-Death · 08-24-2003, 06:30 PM

I think you get ‘punch drunk’, which 50 percent of professional boxers apparently suffer from these days and then you get Parkinson’s or something. Just think about, you get hard hits to your head, how can that be good for you? It’d most certainly be bad.

Course you can force your brain cells to grow back, using anti-depressants like Prozac.

Note that I just heard antidepressants grow new brain cells so I’m not actually advising anyone to try it. Using any medication which messes with your brain isn’t smart without a prescription. And if you don’t have a prescription for antidepressant and possess them anyway it’s illegal, too.

big_cat · 08-27-2003, 03:04 PM

But the real question is whether or not we were brain damaged BEFORE we got into the ring? Think about it, how natural is it to want to put yourself in harms way like that?

Wilson · 09-09-2003, 07:01 PM

Well in response to the reply above. Maybe we are a different breed. Before I started this boxing thing I was an elite ice hockey goalie. I took frozen rubber discs to my head and other parts of the body at over 90 mph

cross · 09-18-2003, 07:36 PM

Alot of people say, "traditional martial arts who do light contact sparring are weak blah blah blah". But in light sparring, you still know when you get hit and that you need to cover up better next time.

Also you dont take constant blows to the head so you dont get brain damage. I mean its pretty certain you will get hit on the street if your in a fight, but i would rather get hit once on the street and lose a few brain cells, than get hit all the time and constantly lose brain cells.

Not to mention boxers sometimes think, "i wont worry about covering up, cause i can take the punch if i get hit" but in other matial arts, you have the mentality that you dont want to get hit and you "need" to cover up or get out of the way.

Im not saying controlled contact sparring is not needed, its good to test your skills ever now and then, and traditional schools are starting to realise this. But you can also test and learn new skills including "control" from light contact sparring.

big_cat · 09-19-2003, 12:09 PM

Well how do you know that what you practice will work?? If you've never had to go against a guy that wants to take your head off, then what are you going to do when he really wants to take your head off? And I'm willing to bet that the brain cells that we've lost are comperable to that of a long time alocoholic, except that we don't get liver damage as well!

**Thai Bri** · 09-19-2003, 12:23 PM

Throwing "light contact" strikes is a very different mechanism to hard ones. You are literally training yourself not to hit hard.

decypheredbeats · 09-19-2003, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thai Bri
Throwing "light contact" strikes is a very different mechanism to hard ones. You are literally training yourself not to hit hard.

I completely agree.

cross · 09-19-2003, 11:41 PM

If you do it properly you are hitting full power, just not touching or lightly touching your opponent

swagman · 09-20-2003, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Great Sage
The same can be said of alcoholics...

must be hearing lots of echos then !!!

08-18-2003, 06:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
dkm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 286 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	80% of boxers have some sort of brain damage that's what a side note said in this month's Men's Fitness magazine. Hard to believe......but is it true?

08-20-2003, 01:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Great Sage Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nowhere, USA... Posts: 510 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The same can be said of alcoholics... __________________ The sage experiences without abstraction, And accomplishes without action; He accepts the ebb and flow of things, Nurtures them, but does not own them, And lives, but does not dwell.

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Roland Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 101 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	80% of all statistics are made up. __________________ "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell

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Wilson Novice Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 11 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well in response to the reply above. Maybe we are a different breed. Before I started this boxing thing I was an elite ice hockey goalie. I took frozen rubber discs to my head and other parts of the body at over 90 mph __________________ Undefeated! Never fought before though!

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08-20-2003, 06:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Why is it so hard to believe? Every solid punch costs a few thousand brain cells. And they don't grow back.

08-20-2003, 02:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tom Yum Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Here and there. Posts: 11,573 Groans: 1 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts	and 80% of those made up statistics come from fictional sources.

08-21-2003, 12:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
hashpuppet Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 122 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	youre all just mad cause we're all retarded

08-24-2003, 06:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Angel-of-Death Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 40 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think you get ‘punch drunk’, which 50 percent of professional boxers apparently suffer from these days and then you get Parkinson’s or something. Just think about, you get hard hits to your head, how can that be good for you? It’d most certainly be bad. Course you can force your brain cells to grow back, using anti-depressants like Prozac. Note that I just heard antidepressants grow new brain cells so I’m not actually advising anyone to try it. Using any medication which messes with your brain isn’t smart without a prescription. And if you don’t have a prescription for antidepressant and possess them anyway it’s illegal, too.

08-27-2003, 03:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
big_cat Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: houston texas Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	But the real question is whether or not we were brain damaged BEFORE we got into the ring? Think about it, how natural is it to want to put yourself in harms way like that?

09-18-2003, 07:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
cross Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Alot of people say, "traditional martial arts who do light contact sparring are weak blah blah blah". But in light sparring, you still know when you get hit and that you need to cover up better next time. Also you dont take constant blows to the head so you dont get brain damage. I mean its pretty certain you will get hit on the street if your in a fight, but i would rather get hit once on the street and lose a few brain cells, than get hit all the time and constantly lose brain cells. Not to mention boxers sometimes think, "i wont worry about covering up, cause i can take the punch if i get hit" but in other matial arts, you have the mentality that you dont want to get hit and you "need" to cover up or get out of the way. Im not saying controlled contact sparring is not needed, its good to test your skills ever now and then, and traditional schools are starting to realise this. But you can also test and learn new skills including "control" from light contact sparring.

09-19-2003, 12:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
big_cat Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: houston texas Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well how do you know that what you practice will work?? If you've never had to go against a guy that wants to take your head off, then what are you going to do when he really wants to take your head off? And I'm willing to bet that the brain cells that we've lost are comperable to that of a long time alocoholic, except that we don't get liver damage as well!

09-19-2003, 12:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Throwing "light contact" strikes is a very different mechanism to hard ones. You are literally training yourself not to hit hard.

09-19-2003, 11:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
cross Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you do it properly you are hitting full power, just not touching or lightly touching your opponent

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