The Ultimate in Martial Arts

VKX · 10-02-2003, 11:40 AM

I started boxing a few months ago and I was wondering if any of you guys had any advice on using boxing for regular self-defense...obviously headshots are a no-no...any other pointers? I started boxing primarily for self-defense but the more I get into it, the more I want to compete eventually.

Gotta work on that conditioning. But yea...any advice would be much appreciated.

**Thai Bri** · 10-02-2003, 12:38 PM

Heah shots a no no? I don't think so. But ensure you hit the lower face areas, as the skull will beat your knuckles.

Szczepankiewicz · 10-02-2003, 01:11 PM

Especially the Limey Skulls. They are the hardest.

Great Sage · 10-02-2003, 04:48 PM

Ofcourse boxing is good for self-defense... Especially if you get good at it. Boxing provides sound fundaments: striking, mobility and mentality. Combine that with enhanced reflexes and speed and the other guy is in a world of trouble.

Head punches... Okay, if you know where you're aiming... Remember the first thing you learned as a kid — Go for the nose... Aim for soft spots and avoid the skull. Otherwise, play it safe and go to the body, neck, chin (can result in broken hands), etc...

Work on combos and continuous punching. The more comfortable you are with throwing combinations, the better... An "old-school" rule is to end each combo with the lead hand: jab, cross, hook... so you end up back in a balanced stance. Keep truckin' dude.

Thadiius · 10-06-2003, 03:58 AM

Good advice.

VKX · 10-06-2003, 11:34 PM

Thanks Great Sage...I was wondering if you had read that book by Jack Dempsey called Championship Boxing or something? My boxing coach recommended it to me if I was serious about using boxing for self-defense.

ryanhall · 10-07-2003, 12:16 AM

VKF,
If you have the means, definitely pick up Jack Dempsey's Championship Fighting. It's supposed to be great (I've only read a few chapters). Unfortunately, it goes for about $100 on e-bay, and it's hard to find in the first place.

eXcessiveForce · 10-07-2003, 12:39 AM

Hard cover of that book runs between 290 and 450 bucks

**Thai Bri** · 10-07-2003, 01:50 PM

Its posted on the internet. I'll try and find it and post the link.

eXcessiveForce · 10-07-2003, 02:01 PM

here it is

http://stickgrappler2.tripod.com/kbox/dempsey.html

adacas · 10-07-2003, 10:20 PM

hey thats a cool book. I just added it to my favorites hehe. Boxing is a basic and as simple as it gets and thats why it is so effective. remember K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) I started out just by picking up a book and teaching myself the basic punches and stances and from there its all you. you can make an endless amount of combos and the great thing is you never have to leave your feet. unless of course they make you. but hey thats what cross training is for.

bratvas · 10-15-2003, 09:40 PM

Small note. If you want to use your hand without gloves (like you’ll have to in self-defense), it makes sense to condition fists by working on a heavy bag with no bag gloves on, only in hand wraps. Start with one-two rounds, and increase it in time

tekshow · 11-11-2003, 07:18 PM

i aim for the head, but i always aim for the chin.... or the squishy part of the cheek right next to the chin

it's pretty easy to beat up someone who doens't know what they're doing, which is mainly the type of people you'll meet out there who want to get into a fight....

lookout !

**Thai Bri** · 11-12-2003, 05:29 AM

Unless they're courageous, strong, rock hard and fast.

Which many street fighting shit heads are.

Don't kid yourself that a street fight will be easy. You can't bank on it. Sure, some guys are Paper Tigers. But some are the real thing, trained or not.

IPON · 11-12-2003, 06:28 AM

Naw Bri you are completely wrong.... no one knows how to fight, no one is experienced, there are no other boxers, wrestlers, MAs in the world, just the one on this forum. And since we all know what each other looks like and where they live, we will never attack each other. However, if I get into a fight with somone outside the forum, I know myI know my sophisticated psychic law of averages will tell I am safe to use any sloppy technique I want because nonone can block it. They will be in awe that I am a FIGHTER they will be to scared to fight back. YEAH!!!! YEAH!!!! Another successful night of impressing my girl and my friends with my might YEAH!!!!!

I always say "if you can't respect the person, respect what that peson may know"

10-02-2003, 11:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
VKX Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Boxing (outside of the ring) I started boxing a few months ago and I was wondering if any of you guys had any advice on using boxing for regular self-defense...obviously headshots are a no-no...any other pointers? I started boxing primarily for self-defense but the more I get into it, the more I want to compete eventually. Gotta work on that conditioning. But yea...any advice would be much appreciated.

10-02-2003, 04:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Great Sage Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Nowhere, USA... Posts: 510 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ofcourse boxing is good for self-defense... Especially if you get good at it. Boxing provides sound fundaments: striking, mobility and mentality. Combine that with enhanced reflexes and speed and the other guy is in a world of trouble. Head punches... Okay, if you know where you're aiming... Remember the first thing you learned as a kid — Go for the nose... Aim for soft spots and avoid the skull. Otherwise, play it safe and go to the body, neck, chin (can result in broken hands), etc... Work on combos and continuous punching. The more comfortable you are with throwing combinations, the better... An "old-school" rule is to end each combo with the lead hand: jab, cross, hook... so you end up back in a balanced stance. Keep truckin' dude. __________________ The sage experiences without abstraction, And accomplishes without action; He accepts the ebb and flow of things, Nurtures them, but does not own them, And lives, but does not dwell.

10-07-2003, 12:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
ryanhall Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,247 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	VKF, If you have the means, definitely pick up Jack Dempsey's Championship Fighting. It's supposed to be great (I've only read a few chapters). Unfortunately, it goes for about $100 on e-bay, and it's hard to find in the first place. __________________ "Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!"

10-07-2003, 12:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
eXcessiveForce Excessive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,991 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	Hard cover of that book runs between 290 and 450 bucks __________________ eXcessiveFORCE. If you must use force, make it excessive. www.b-prime.com A success and achievement community

10-07-2003, 02:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
eXcessiveForce Excessive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,991 Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post	here it is http://stickgrappler2.tripod.com/kbox/dempsey.html __________________ eXcessiveFORCE. If you must use force, make it excessive. www.b-prime.com A success and achievement community

10-02-2003, 12:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Heah shots a no no? I don't think so. But ensure you hit the lower face areas, as the skull will beat your knuckles.

10-02-2003, 01:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Szczepankiewicz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Meridian, ID, USA Posts: 4,109 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Especially the Limey Skulls. They are the hardest.

10-06-2003, 03:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
Thadiius Novice Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 32 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Good advice.

10-06-2003, 11:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
VKX Novice Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Great Sage...I was wondering if you had read that book by Jack Dempsey called Championship Boxing or something? My boxing coach recommended it to me if I was serious about using boxing for self-defense.

10-07-2003, 01:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Its posted on the internet. I'll try and find it and post the link.

10-07-2003, 10:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
adacas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fresno, Ca Posts: 563 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	hey thats a cool book. I just added it to my favorites hehe. Boxing is a basic and as simple as it gets and thats why it is so effective. remember K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) I started out just by picking up a book and teaching myself the basic punches and stances and from there its all you. you can make an endless amount of combos and the great thing is you never have to leave your feet. unless of course they make you. but hey thats what cross training is for. __________________ Estalilla Kabaroan

10-15-2003, 09:40 PM	#12 (permalink)
bratvas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edison,NJ Posts: 40 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Small note. If you want to use your hand without gloves (like you’ll have to in self-defense), it makes sense to condition fists by working on a heavy bag with no bag gloves on, only in hand wraps. Start with one-two rounds, and increase it in time

11-11-2003, 07:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
tekshow Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: portland, OR Posts: 103 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	i aim for the head, but i always aim for the chin.... or the squishy part of the cheek right next to the chin it's pretty easy to beat up someone who doens't know what they're doing, which is mainly the type of people you'll meet out there who want to get into a fight.... lookout ! __________________ the truth is the knowledge of self

11-12-2003, 05:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	Unless they're courageous, strong, rock hard and fast. Which many street fighting shit heads are. Don't kid yourself that a street fight will be easy. You can't bank on it. Sure, some guys are Paper Tigers. But some are the real thing, trained or not.

11-12-2003, 06:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
IPON Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,573 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Naw Bri you are completely wrong.... no one knows how to fight, no one is experienced, there are no other boxers, wrestlers, MAs in the world, just the one on this forum. And since we all know what each other looks like and where they live, we will never attack each other. However, if I get into a fight with somone outside the forum, I know myI know my sophisticated psychic law of averages will tell I am safe to use any sloppy technique I want because nonone can block it. They will be in awe that I am a FIGHTER they will be to scared to fight back. YEAH!!!! YEAH!!!! Another successful night of impressing my girl and my friends with my might YEAH!!!!! I always say "if you can't respect the person, respect what that peson may know" __________________ A person who is said to be proficient in the arts is like a fool. Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing, he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient. - Hagarkure

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