The Ultimate in Martial Arts

Mixed Martial Arts, Thaiboxing, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Combat Submission Wrestling, Jeet Kune Do, Women's Self-Defense, Boxing and Filipino Martial Arts


Go Back   Deluxe Martial Arts Forums > Martial Arts > Boxing Discussion Forum

Boxing Discussion Forum Find out about the recent happenings and events of boxing or gain insight into the training techniques and methods.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-06-2004, 08:12 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
JKD-Escrima's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: California
Posts: 74
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
JKD-Escrima is on a distinguished road
Default

check out the wee guys punching hard thread, slightly helpful, pretty humorous.
__________________
gusto isa bajo nobya
JKD-Escrima is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 10-31-2006, 11:19 AM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 10
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Beach Head is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turing View Post
Chopping wood and swinging a sledgehammer at a big old tire are also supposed to use the muscles used in punching as well.
I've seen Fedor do that and he has the awesome punchinf power.
Beach Head is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-18-2009, 12:21 PM   #18 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
monkeyz is on a distinguished road
Default

If you use weights with your punches, use very small weights and only do a few sets, followed by a few set of punches without the weights. In the sets without the weights your muscles will be compensating for the weights that are no longer in your hands resulting in very fast relaxed punches. This is much like running down a slight hill when training for speed.
monkeyz is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-23-2009, 03:22 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
chillaplata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 213
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
chillaplata is a jewel in the roughchillaplata is a jewel in the roughchillaplata is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turing View Post
Chopping wood and swinging a sledgehammer at a big old tire are also supposed to use the muscles used in punching as well.
I've seen Fedor do that and he has the awesome punchinf power.
Fedor advocates this kind of training in his book. Chuck Liddell does likewise in his own book: apparently hitting an old truck tire with a sledgehammer is a favorite training technique of Coach John Hackleman and his team at The Pit.

BTW this thread is like one of those insect species that recurrently surfaces in a flurry of activity every couple of years and then goes dormant...still, much better than more Knowledge Bot threads ...

[/thread necro]
chillaplata is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-23-2009, 03:30 PM   #20 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 482
Groans: 13
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
JadeDragon is on a distinguished road
Default

When you punch snap your waist into it (also called fa jing [explosive energy]). Kinda like a whipping action. Also put your body weight into it.
JadeDragon is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-23-2009, 03:37 PM   #21 (permalink)
Registered User
 
chillaplata's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 213
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
chillaplata is a jewel in the roughchillaplata is a jewel in the roughchillaplata is a jewel in the rough
Default

I think that's the theory behind the sledgehammer training -- it forces you to develop proper hip rotation and build explosive power in your legs (as well as your upper body).
chillaplata is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-25-2009, 09:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
dimmg is on a distinguished road
Default

All your power will come from your hips. Pratice with a very slow punch and notice how your hips are rotating through. When your hips are fractions of a second ahead of your fist landing you body will transfer that power to your punch.

dimmg is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-26-2009, 07:15 PM   #23 (permalink)
Premiere Member
 
Britt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 601
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Britt is a jewel in the roughBritt is a jewel in the roughBritt is a jewel in the roughBritt is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chillaplata View Post
Fedor advocates this kind of training in his book. Chuck Liddell does likewise in his own book: apparently hitting an old truck tire with a sledgehammer is a favorite training technique of Coach John Hackleman and his team at The Pit.
It is, John has his guys hit tractor tires with hammers all the time. He says he picked the technique up from Earnie Shavers, who said it was great for increasing his punching power. I do it pretty regularly on the tractor tires behind our gym, but I've only got a 12 pound hammer. 20 pounders give a much better (and much harder) workout, but I can't find a store with one around here.

For funsies I dug up this picture of me hitting tires at The Pit, I'm the guy in the center rearground.
Hammer time! on Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Britt is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 02-26-2009, 09:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 461
Groans: 1
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
pstevens will become famous soon enough
Default

The best way to develop punching power is the heavy bag. Learn the fundamentals, wrap your hands and get to work. Hitting the bag develops precision, strength in your wrist, arms and legs.

The same concept holds true for any MA. If you want to be a good grappler, don't waste your time lifting weights all day; hit the mats.

I'm not saying one should forget weightlifting, exercising, etc.. On the contrary, I think it's good to add things to your routine. But the best way to learn to walk is to do it.
pstevens is offline   Reply With Quote


1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.
Old 02-27-2009, 10:12 AM   #25 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 482
Groans: 13
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
JadeDragon is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Turing View Post
Chopping wood and swinging a sledgehammer at a big old tire are also supposed to use the muscles used in punching as well.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beach Head View Post
I've seen Fedor do that and he has the awesome punchinf power.

This form of training is called blunt force trauma. If you watched the newest Rocky movie "Rocky Balboa" thats the type of training he did. Remember when he had the empty beer keg and he was picking it up over his head and slinging it down on the ground and he kept doing this over and over? This is the same type training.
JadeDragon is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 04-08-2009, 01:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 4
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
wright19 is on a distinguished road
Default

I think, hitting the heavy bag is by far the most effective way to build murderous power. Not only does it help you build power through knowing your range (which is detrimental to landing with force), it greatly increases punching endurance as well. Spend at least an hour a day (preferably in a row w/ few, if any breaks) beating the crap out of the heavy bag.
wright19 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 04-19-2009, 05:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
Registered User
 
guitarfx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
guitarfx is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RedNoze View Post
For more punch power,
-Try to have the good body punching movement with your hip, Weight Transfer
it was standard but may be wrong way. I saw tons real knockouts and many were made by short but very fast hand movement without body movement.
I think a velocity is a key.
guitarfx is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 04-20-2009, 01:33 AM   #28 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Tom Yum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Here and there.
Posts: 11,564
Groans: 1
Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts
Tom Yum has much to be proud ofTom Yum has much to be proud ofTom Yum has much to be proud ofTom Yum has much to be proud ofTom Yum has much to be proud ofTom Yum has much to be proud ofTom Yum has much to be proud ofTom Yum has much to be proud of
Default

I don't have as much experience as most and I'm probably not really built like a puncher, but after spending alot of time working on punching power with the bag and some plyos, I've found that when my hooks and crosses have landed cleanly on guys with a little experience or scrappers who were kinda tough it was enough to rock them pretty good.

60% power makes their eyes roll and they loose their footing.
Tom Yum is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 04-20-2009, 03:32 AM   #29 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Middleweight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Western Canada
Posts: 120
Groans: 1
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Middleweight will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wright19 View Post
I think, hitting the heavy bag is by far the most effective way to build murderous power. Not only does it help you build power through knowing your range (which is detrimental to landing with force), it greatly increases punching endurance as well. Spend at least an hour a day (preferably in a row w/ few, if any breaks) beating the crap out of the heavy bag.

3 times a week: Barbell squats, bench press, dips, and one set of shoulder presses, and one of biceps curls. THEN, after a rest of 4-5 mins, go bang the heavy bag for 5-6 rounds. Don't get sloppy, but work the combos. Above all, work the jab, real hard. The rest will come. I wear 14 oz gloves when I bang the big bag. Then on the last go, take them off and hit just with the wraps on my hands. One minute... hands seem to go like lightning. Don't under rate the speed bag, as power is just as much timing as it is technique, velocity and weight transfer

Squats build the lungs, legs. With weak legs, you can't hit. With tired legs, you can lose. With strong legs, you are still good to go when the enemy is getting tired. This assumes you couldn't take him out in the first 10-15 sec
__________________
Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
Middleweight is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 04-20-2009, 03:34 AM   #30 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Middleweight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Western Canada
Posts: 120
Groans: 1
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Middleweight will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chillaplata View Post
Fedor advocates this kind of training in his book. Chuck Liddell does likewise in his own book: apparently hitting an old truck tire with a sledgehammer is a favorite training technique of Coach John Hackleman and his team at The Pit.

BTW this thread is like one of those insect species that recurrently surfaces in a flurry of activity every couple of years and then goes dormant...still, much better than more Knowledge Bot threads ...

[/thread necro]
.____________
__________________
Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.
Middleweight is offline   Reply With Quote


Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.1
Template-Modifications by TMS
© Copyright 1996-2008, Mousel's Self-Defense Academy




1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186