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i don't know if there is a difference....just different spelling....im not sure...but that's what i was under the the impression of
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Oh no it has nothing to do with Korea, just a different spelling, like jujitsu or jujutsu. I believe Sifu Moy Yat made Ving Tsun popular. Most styles are based from GM Yip man, but there are other styles of wing Chun not of Yip Man Lineage, ultamitely all the same.
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I don't know what you guys base your opinions on, anyway WingTsun is a registered trademark. Wing Chun is the name of all styles within Wing Chun, Ving Tsun is the chinese (canton) name for Wing Chun. Some say that Wing Chun and WingTsun are like day and night. From my own experience I have noticed that most of the concpets and the forms remain the same, but some parts have changed. Wing Chun is mostly a hard style while WingTsun is a soft style. These opinions are based on the Simon Lau's Wing Chun linage and Leung Ting WingTsun. My Advice to you would be that you should try both and then decide. ![]() |
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not all the time...u may think so...but i think that more people think not...
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H.S. Wing Chun (kung/gung fu) Wing Chun Kuen, Ving Tsun, Wing Tsun, Wing Tzun, etc. Yes there is slight philosophical variations but all are basically the same in thoery, forms, dummy and weapon techniques. Some instructors teach a hard and some softer it depends on the instructor. I have seen the forms practiced at a snails pace and hard and crisp niether is incorrect. But I agree look at each school and make sure they focus on street defense, WC is not like other MAs it really is only for fighting and should be traininedthat way. Also it is easy to learn the forms but the instructor should not push "hey I can teach all forms and weapons in 6 months" if that happens walk out the door. The complexity of WC comes from its simplicity Regarding Moy Yat, it was just a reference , at least in the US he used the spelling of Ving Tsun before most. If wing Tsun is actually trademarked I would be suprised, but I don't know. If it is my opinion is the same it really depends on teh instructor. my 2 cents ![]()
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Wing Chun? The vast majority of people in the world would have to guess at what that was. So, more people do not believe that WC would beat boxing or grappling. As most people in the world haven't even heard of it. Now, lets get back to what WOULD actually happen. The WC guy would patta cake away with his little girl powder puffs and the boxer would knock his head into ext week. Or the WC guy would try his ridiculous "Anti Grappling", and eat dust just prior to being choked out. I don't know. Why kid yourselves? WC has a part of the puzzle to offer. But only a small, very limited part. |
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I think it is a trademark now they are also associated with escrima..... I went to one of their schools once (I was more interested in practicing escrima), the atmosphere wasn't, in my opinion very good, a lot of ego in the air and the instructor claimed their style was the best, that their escrima could also beat any other filipino martial art and so on......
Haha.... I didn't tell them I already practiced filipino martial art (for two years).... we did an exercise where the student was supposed to defend with a stick against the instructor who hold two swords.... I was new there and didn't know I shouldn't attack but just defend so when I felt the instructor was about to strike I hit him with my stick on both sabers (he was on the point of delivering a double attack and hold them close together)..... the unthinkable happened : he dropped both blades on the floor to my surprise....I didn't come back......
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stick to topic, please
Unlike some WC styles, WT hasn't picked up stuff from other styles like jumping around like a kickboxer. Also there are student-programs in WT developed for mass learning. WT is also a more expensive to learn if you want to take grades, but you don't have to. Wing chun was developed to defeat the shaolin monks, while WT is a more modern style, according to me. Leung Ting changed the spelling for his style to WingTsun because he didn't want WT to be accociated with other linages of WC because he believed that WT was very different. |
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Thai Bri, don't be such a fascist!
This 'patta cake' idea of yours just shows how little you know about Wing Chun. I assume your referring to Chi Sau, and I agree that if anyone goes into a fight expecting to link arms and play Chi Sau they will get battered. But Chi Sau is NOT sparring, and anyone who sees it as sparring (ie. you) has completely missed the point. It's just an exercise, and a very useful one at that. Besides, what advantages does a boxing have over Wing Chun? If both were of equal skill in their respective art, the Wing Chun exponent would either end the fight by kicking the guys knees out, or trapping his hands. Boxers only train one or two of their weapons, Gung Fu trains all seven. And as for the grappler, an accomplished Wing Chun exponent is very hard to take to the ground, once they've mastered their footwork and redirecting incoming energy, but then again, if the grappler's really fast, maybe he'll go down. It all depends on the person. You can't just put styles into pidgeon holes. Stop being so naive Thai Bri, closing your mind is one of the best ways to stunt your growth as a person, let alone a martial artist.... |
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