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Old 05-04-2004, 06:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anybody heard of Monkey Kung Fu?

I was told there are different styles.... one specializes on groundfighting and also uses bitting.. Could somebody give me some info?

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Anybody heard of Monkey Kung Fu?

I was told there are different styles.... one specializes on groundfighting and also uses bitting.. Could somebody give me some info?

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http://www.martialinfo.com/websites/...pauliezink.htm

This is one site you could start with. In my opinion Paulie Zink is possibly the foremost authority on Monkey Kung Fu. Hope it helps.
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Thanks... Is this the monkey style that uses biting?
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http://www.martialinfo.com/websites/...pauliezink.htm

This is one site you could start with. In my opinion Paulie Zink is possibly the foremost authority on Monkey Kung Fu. Hope it helps.
Monkey kung fu requires a lot of agility & flexibilty. A lot of quick hit & run techniques.
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Does Monkey Kung-Fu REALLY work as a fighting art though, or is it one of the more traditional Chinese martial arts one would study for beauty, grace, agility, flexibility, health, etc....but not too good for a fight? Cuz I can't quite imagine someone rolling around acting like a monkey up against a competent Thai fighter or kickboxer. Just wondering though.
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Does Monkey Kung-Fu REALLY work as a fighting art though, or is it one of the more traditional Chinese martial arts one would study for beauty, grace, agility, flexibility, health, etc....but not too good for a fight? Cuz I can't quite imagine someone rolling around acting like a monkey up against a competent Thai fighter or kickboxer. Just wondering though.
Yes, but not in a monkey sense, I mean not actually imitating a monkey but rather the power, the ability, flexibility of moving around an opponent keeping him/her off balance. Monkey kung fu is not just acrobatic movements but powerful attacks. The form of monkey kung fu is just like a routine to condition one self to stay low. Requires lots of stamina & great conditioning. Monkey kung fu is good against grapplers if practice properly.
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Does Monkey Kung-Fu REALLY work as a fighting art though, or is it one of the more traditional Chinese martial arts one would study for beauty, grace, agility, flexibility, health, etc....but not too good for a fight? Cuz I can't quite imagine someone rolling around acting like a monkey up against a competent Thai fighter or kickboxer. Just wondering though.
maybe the art will not continue to exist if it is useless, cause such a waste of time, effort, money, and a waste of life if apply in an actual combat....

if that kungfu art is still exist as of now, then it is still effective even thou it is more on flowery and etc.....

remember.... the more the beautiful the kungfu form is - the more that form is very deadly...... but be sure that you know how to apply that kind of form you are executing......
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Yes, but not in a monkey sense, I mean not actually imitating a monkey but rather the power, the ability, flexibility of moving around an opponent keeping him/her off balance. Monkey kung fu is not just acrobatic movements but powerful attacks. The form of monkey kung fu is just like a routine to condition one self to stay low. Requires lots of stamina & great conditioning. Monkey kung fu is good against grapplers if practice properly.
very true.... and my kungfu instructor also said that it is really hard to catch monkey kungfu opponent, cause they are very good in evading while you run to catch them
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very true.... and my kungfu instructor also said that it is really hard to catch monkey kungfu opponent, cause they are very good in evading while you run to catch them
watchout, a lot of times they are predenting to run away but they will suddenly turn around and execute a technique that will catch you off guard. Its best to let them come to you.
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watchout, a lot of times they are predenting to run away but they will suddenly turn around and execute a technique that will catch you off guard. Its best to let them come to you.
i imagine what my instructor did to me using his Tai Chi Sword.... he pretends to run away with 3steps but his sword from behind rushes to my face unseen..... too late to counter it.... but he is good in controlling weapon not to hit me or else - injury

you said "Its best to let them come to you" .... well, it is very true, cause one of our objective in sparring is "no stepping backward" or no retreating step backward" only advance step while the opponent withdraw his step....

now, if the opponent advance his step, we should advance also our step, just like a two robot bulldozers banging each other (while smashing of forearm against opponents forearm) until who's who (the one who's forearm is not moving due to pain) then the fighter who's forearm are most conditioned are now free to enter land his fist to opponent's body and head......
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Anybody heard of Monkey Kung Fu?

I was told there are different styles.... one specializes on groundfighting and also uses bitting.. Could somebody give me some info?

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hey krys, I believe 'Fur Ball-Do' is the style that utilises groundwork and biting
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Well I know there are, or is, a/some Filipino art/arts that utilize biting; one is strictly for biting. As for, "the more beautiful the form, the more deadly," I don't know about that, performance wushu forms are extremely beautiful and about as deadly as ballet will make you (not that ballet won't make you strong or anything like that, but I mean in terms of teaching you fighting techniques)
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In Kong Han there is monkey fist but not every person could learn it because it requires power, ability & flexibility as well as some acrobatic skill.

The last time that Kong Han had a monkey fist fighter was in 1975 we call him " kawh ka" he was very agile, fllexible, acrobatic & powerful. He could break beach stones with two fingers. When he spar ( w/ armour) he was so fast & powerful, kick-kick, punch-punch jumping in & out. Very few people would want to spar with him.
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Well I know there are, or is, a/some Filipino art/arts that utilize biting; one is strictly for biting. As for, "the more beautiful the form, the more deadly," I don't know about that, performance wushu forms are extremely beautiful and about as deadly as ballet will make you (not that ballet won't make you strong or anything like that, but I mean in terms of teaching you fighting techniques)

The Filipino art your talking about is Kino Mutai, the art of gouging, pinching, and biting.
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In Kong Han there is monkey fist but not every person could learn it because it requires power, ability & flexibility as well as some acrobatic skill.

The last time that Kong Han had a monkey fist fighter was in 1975 we call him " kawh ka" he was very agile, fllexible, acrobatic & powerful. He could break beach stones with two fingers. When he spar ( w/ armour) he was so fast & powerful, kick-kick, punch-punch jumping in & out. Very few people would want to spar with him.
Hmmm, sounds like the ideal type of fighter I wanna be (agile, powerful, flexible, and acrobatic)
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