jubaji

I remember once during a wrestling match, my opponent and I both shot for a double at the exact same moment. Thunk! Echoes throughout the gym. I stepped back and put my hand to my head to see if it was bleeding. When I looked down, the guy was out cold! They stretchered him out of the gym. He didn't come to the whole time as far as I could tell.

But he was a Harvard boy. Kinda fragile I guess.

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konghan

Thats` what we call USING YOUR HEAD, TORA , TORA TORA!! , EL TORO..

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Toudiyama[NL]

all of which has nothing to do with copying, is like saying appart from fighting KF learns you to do embroidery


no it can't, a printer is needed to print, a scanner to scan and internet connection to surf, all extras needed to do that ( Like you need extra beside your TKF too)
Appart from that, when I want to relax and watch a movie, I'm not gonna do that on my 21" Crt monitor, I want to enjoy it so I watch it on my 82 cm widescreen Palplus dolby surround TV


STEREO not sterio, I rather have a proper Stereo when I want to listen to some good music, all the extras might look nice but the sound is substandard even with a 5.1 or 7.1 speakerset, if I want to have the best sound, I take a system specialised in high quality sound, not a system that has substandard sound

It's like buying an AMD64 FX53 PC with the latest 3D videocard, a 7.1 audio system, firewire, gigabit lan, TVout, 8x USB2.0 and a TV card, all just to be able to type a letter ( our metaphore for fighting remember?)

Like I want to learn how to fight period, everything else might be nice but you are still left with shabby fighting skills, able to defend against non skilled people but against a trained person that specialised, you are way out of your league
Why? because time spend on superfluous things can't be spend on the core
An hour spend is an hour spend, the only thing that makes a difference is the intensity of the training ( taken we are doing the same training ) and you can't beat the Thai in that
Now if the one thing that is most benificial is trained the least like it is in most TMA, KF included ( yeah yours too) then the math is easy

What you don't seem to get is that when I want something specific, I don't want to spend money ( in case of MA time) for all the extras we don't need

UNDERSTAND?????

Oh and please do not start this "Human Dummy" shit again, because they have made clear that it will take more than a few strikes to stop a determined opponent and we are talking solid strikes not those whimpy 22:2 ratio punches you have in mind

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sherwinc

your 21" Crt monitor, 82 cm widescreen Palplus dolby surround TV (non-kungfu):
1. Cannot Scan pictures and upload as a BMP, JPG, etc....
2. Cannot Print ThaiBri photo's defeated by Diarrheanation in a fight.....
3. Cannot Edit Movies that it must be Diarrheanation defeated by ThaiBri in a fight......
4. Cannot store important document .doc files for future use.....
5. Cannot log-in to defend.net to reply that i am correct and you are wrong....
6. Cannot do desktop publications to make name label stickers to stick unto your mouth.....

then......

A Personal Computer (KungFu):
can watch movies like the way your stupid 21" Crt monitor does.... even thou less quality, i still enjoy watching it...... especially my mother board is ASUStek....

do i need to compare KungFu (Personal Computer) and a Non-KungFu (21" Crt monitor, 82 cm widescreen Palplus dolby surround TV) again ?

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Question: What are the principal characteristics of a good fighter?

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Lesson: More Techniques learned are better than Few

Toudiyama[NL]

Now if you would only read ALL of my post, first my 21"CRT is part of my PC system
Second and far more importand you have this nag for not reading what is important
IF I WANT A MACHINE FOR A SPECIFIC TASK, I DO NOT WANT TO PAY FOR ALL THE OTHER EXTRAS I'M NOT GOING TO BE USING, APPART FROM THE FACT THAT I NEED TO PAY EXTRA TO DO A LOT OF THE THING YOU MENTION
NO PC CAN SCAN OR PRINT BY ITSELF IT NEEDS A PRINTER AND SCANNER FOR THAT (OR AN ALL IN ONE)
YOU NEED EXTRA SOFTWARE TO DO MOST OF THE TASK SO SPENDING IS EVEN HIGHER

SHURE YOU CAN WATCH MOVIES ON A 17" pc SCREEN BUT THATS NOT VERY RELAXING IS IT?

WE ARE ADRESSING FIGHTING HERE, NOT FIGHTING+ MANY OTHER ASPECTS
KF IS GREAT AT THE OTHER ASPECTS BUT IT IS LESS AT THE FIGHTINGASPECT BECAUSE IT SPENDS TOO MUCH ON THE OTHER ASPECTS THAT AREN'T HELPFULL FOR SELFDEFENCE

sorry evrybody for shouting but I had the feeling someone had eastindian deafness ( only hearing what you want)

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yentao

Nothing is top to one another. It depends who uses. I feel people who say kung fu was not effective are the people who were victimize by a mc dojo or was cheated and not taught the right way.

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sherwinc

You are very wrong......

here in the Philippines.....

ChopChop Personal Computers (KungFu) are very very cheaper compare to Home Entertainment Television, SoundSystems, etc (Non-KungFu)........

example:
Personal Computer TVCard/Tuner (KungFu) for the price of 1,400 pesos Phil. currency.....

compare to....

Sony Television (Non-KungFu) for the price of 19,000 pesos Phil. currency......

Note:
for just 21,000 pesos phil currency, you can buy a ChopChop yet longlasting computer (KungFu) with an ASUSTek Motherboard, IntelPentium4 1.8mhz, pc266 128mb memory, built-in 32mb videocard, etc........

only thing you need is an add-on pheripherals like adding 1,400 (TVTuner) to watch televisions....... adding etc........ etc.......


haw haw haw haw.....

here in the Philippines is full of Pirated, even all my softwares i have is all pirated, and some of them i only free cdwrite........ full of cracks of serials, no need to buy licensed softwares........ like this kind of pirated softwares i used to write in order to response to your stupid quotes haw haw haw

and even thou it is only pirated, chopchop, it depends upon the use if how he care for his machine if it will last for years......

it depends upon the user if he/she is contented of what he have, i am contented watching eventhou it is not very relaxing, cause i am contended, and even thou i type word documents - a miniclip i watch on the upperright of my screen watching jackychan movies, so i am contented......





this is only a matter of comparison of KungFu vs non-kungfu compare to an electronics for you to understand much more easier than easier before......


NOte:
if you compare Computer to a KungFu here, please read this:

fighting doesnt start only in the ring....... most of fights are in top of the table, or on places that you are not comfortable......

what i mean is...... you could not do grappling in top of the table, you could not do muay thai on top of the plumflower posts, you could not do tae kwon do jumping kicks on top of the moving train........

while kungfu is versatile and can adopt to any kind of environment, the more the fighting place is tight the better.......

now.....

in a Personal computer, for only 1,400 pesos you can watch movies, record and be happy for the rest of your days...... for only 1,500 pesos you can buy a web cam to record my new kungfu moves, no need to buy a vcr recorder to record your grappling on top of the sharp rocky grounds.......

just download to www.cnet.com to download a free winamp software(kungfu) to play music and and no need to buy sterio components(non-kungfu)

Note:
can you use your sterio components (non-kungfu) just to reply my stupid quotes???????

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Question: What are the principal characteristics of a good fighter?

Answer: A good fighter has a lot of tricks, but doesn't play games

Lesson: More Techniques learned are better than Few

Toudiyama[NL]

oh but you need the PC which adds around 40.000 pesos( without screen) to the 1400 for the TVcard

wow 21.000 pesos=309 euros is cheapscate system without screen
btw 1.8 GHz not MHz



I could steal my TV too and it will last even longer than the average PC
but normal people do not do so



try to watch an instructional video that way, you won't see much details
You are contended.... of course you are, you do TKF




I know what it was for, and I tried to show you your comparisons are flawed

Did I mention a ring, no I didn't, I adressed spending too much on stuff that isn't needed, whereas you might think most fights are on top of a table, here in my neck of the woods ( and probably anywhere appart from your country), noone would be so morronic to do so, nor will they be trainsurfing and fighting at the same time at 60-70 miles an hour

and what the heck are plumflowerposts and how likely will someone pick a fight while standing on them?


for only 1400 Pesos EXTRA, you still need to pay the PC

And the webcam will record at a shabby resolution and a crappy framerate, and to record on the sharp rocky ground with a DesktopPC and a Webcam, how are you going to do that, does that place have a place to put the mains in?



STEREO, STEREO, STEREO, STEREO, STEREO NOT STERIO

again your winampplayer will be nowhere near the quality of a Stereo system
Like your fighting skills be nowhere near those of non KF because non KF doesn't spend time on situation not very likely to happen

In most countries fights on the roof of a train is not ever gonna happen nor on a bus or thinks like that, barfights or streetfights are most likely to happen
and guess what and MT elbow doesn't need a lot of space

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KUNGFU:
21,000 pesos = Personal Computer (KungFu Chi Dian Bun Style)
1,400 pesos = TV Card (KungFu Wing Chun Style)
400 pesos = EnCarta Encyclopedia CD Installer (KungFu NgoChoKun Style)
150 pesos = SimCity PC Games (TaiChi Style)
0 pesos free = Winamp from www.cnet.com free download
= 22,950 pesos Philippine currency total


NON-KUNGFU:
19,000 pesos = Sony Television (BJJ)
26,000 pesos = Britanicca Encyclopeadia Books (Sub. Wrestling)
9,000 pesos = Sony Playstation II (Muay Thai)
15,000 pesos = Sterio Components (Boxing)
= 69,000 pesos Philippine currency total



What a great question!!!!!!!!! haw haw haw haw

as i said before, most of the fights are in the fighting place not suited to you.....

one of the Instructors there in Philippine E-NEE can walk on top of the 7-Up Softdrink bottles, he can perform his Tai Chi Chuan there on top of the plenty of bottles.......

even on top of the bed of nails just like what the middle east performers do but they dont know kungfu.....

even in the movie of Jet Lee in Once Upon A Time In China versions there you could see fights on top of the chairs, if who is the first to drop to the ground first looses the fight......

even Sumu Wrestlers of Japan push each other to cross outside the circle to defeat their opponent, try to imagine that that outside that circle arena is pit where you fall down in nowhere..... haw haw haw haw
or sparring in a sumu wrestlers rules?????
then NgoChoKun's DiSipKun, the ROBOT BULLDOZER bulldoze you out of the circle for you to defeat.......

In Chi Dian Bun, we have 20 Unique Elbows,
but i learn only 10 Unique Elbow Strikes......


Note:
in your Language it is called STEREO
in Tagalog it is called STERYO
in Visaya it is called STERIO

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Question: What are the principal characteristics of a good fighter?

Answer: A good fighter has a lot of tricks, but doesn't play games

Lesson: More Techniques learned are better than Few

Wing Tsun

Well this kid was talking shit to me for being quiet in math class a few years back, and he was sitting on my desk, but I was too tired to really get pissed at the kid, but as he kept talking I started to get pissed. Next thing I know, I see him raise his hand to slap me in the face trying to be funny, so I grabbed his hand twisted it in the crook of the desk (the metal part that holds the chair and tabletop together) and basically flipped the desk and kicked it forward, successfully breaking his wrist. My math teacher thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever seen, but he had to give me a couple detentions.

This thread brings back memories of some pretty funny fights I've had back in the day.

Toudiyama[NL]

Yeah 3 times as expensive, 10X more fun ( 10x more effective)



Greaat question, no answer, What are plumflowerposts?

the fact that someone can perform on bottles doesn answer the other question either, why would I be on a table and get in a fight, the other person an a table picking a fight, me on the floor, I just step away, he has to leave the table...life is easier than KF my friend

A fight on chairs, where the first to get of the chair loses, isn't a real fight, it is a form of competition

You mention Sumo wrestlers, Karate Judo TKD and pobably man more have the rle that stepping outside of the area will lose you point because we imagine a pit there

You wouldn't bulldozer my out of the ring, I would steer my Ki to the ground, fixating me


Again you miss the point, the point being they have weapons for close spaces too, two hits on your liver and you will be in agony

In Dutch it is STEREO, IN English ( the lingo here) it is STEREO, in German it is STEREO, in French it is STEREO, in Italian, in ..., in Latin ( where the word comes from) it is STEREO, all are pronounced slightly different though
In dutch it is pronounced as STERAYO

But that's all beside it, we are using english here

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Originally Posted by sherwinc
KUNGFU:
21,000 pesos = Personal Computer (KungFu Chi Dian Bun Style)
1,400 pesos = TV Card (KungFu Wing Chun Style)
400 pesos = EnCarta Encyclopedia CD Installer (KungFu NgoChoKun Style)
150 pesos = SimCity PC Games (TaiChi Style)
0 pesos free = Winamp from www.cnet.com free download
= 22,950 pesos Philippine currency total


NON-KUNGFU:
19,000 pesos = Sony Television (BJJ)
26,000 pesos = Britanicca Encyclopeadia Books (Sub. Wrestling)
9,000 pesos = Sony Playstation II (Muay Thai)
15,000 pesos = Sterio Components (Boxing)
= 69,000 pesos Philippine currency total

but if one of the IC of the Sony Television (Non-KungFu) electronically destroyed, you have to purchase again another Sony Television (Non-KungFu) for the price of 19,000 pesos, while in a ChopChop Personal Computer (KungFu) you have to purchase another TV Tuner for the price of 1,400 pesos....... and the problem is solved......

how about if HandtoHand destroy your Sony Playstation (Non-KungFu)????? you buy again another unit?????? While in Personal Computer (KungFu) you have a back-up if SimCity File installer (KungFu) inside your harddisk and reinstall again.... not to mention that you have also a back-up of SimCity File installer (KungFu) in CD format for the price of 150 pesos......

150 pesos (SimCity Installer [KungFu]) compare to 9,000 pesos (Sony Playstation [Non-KungFu]) not to mention the CD Games Cartridge of Sony Playstation for another price......

HAW HAW HAW HAW.........


So you See??????

even plumflower posts you dont know, then how can you win a fight by that?????

ok,

Plum Flower posts is to the Northern KungFu, while Wooden Dummy is to Southern KungFu......

please, learn KungFu my friend, i believe this would help you a lot,

even i too, i also learning now MuayThai RoundKick to the banana plantation here haw haw haw haw, i also like Tae Kwon Do Insteap Jumping Back Spinning Side Trust Kick target to solar plexus and still the banana plantation is great.......

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Question: What are the principal characteristics of a good fighter?

Answer: A good fighter has a lot of tricks, but doesn't play games

Lesson: More Techniques learned are better than Few

Toudiyama[NL]

wrong!, if an IC of your system (PC ) goes, you need to replace the PC

your 150 pesos SW is illegal to begin with but if H2H demolishes my PS2, he would distroy your PC not just the game


you see that you have problems to compare things? why only the software with you and the hardware plus the software for me

You forget that the PC is the haert of your system, and because of that everything will have invluence on eachother
If something happens there, you don't have anything, whereas I could still do all the other things


[why would I fight on top of plumflowerpost anyway? Again, I don't start a fight, if you do and then get on top of them, I just walk away....fight over

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ok,

Plum Flower posts is to the Northern KungFu, while Wooden Dummy is to Southern KungFu......[/quote]

now that tells me a lot does it?, that only tells me that it is a trainingtool used a lot by norther KF, still doesn't say what it is, I have an idea but can't see why they would be called that way


learning is myy main drive

Take a lesson from a guy like my countryman Bas Rutten, learn from your losses

Please my friend, the way you talk about KF, the unwillingness to learn from other styles is build into the system

In Japan when people would be beat, they wouldn't stop teaching, instead they would change the art to deal with the problems (think of Jigoro Kano of Judo) this is how styles evolve
You would stop if you lost once, would you too if you won 99 times prior to that? It would mean yyou would be effective 99% of the time, would be a great loss not to use that

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sherwinc

Extremely Wrong.....

haw haw haw haw

when the PC IC of mother board (KungFu) is destroyed, you need to purchased another mother board ASUSTek for the price of 6,000 pesos

while.....

if your Sony Television IC (Non-KungFu) is destroyed, you need to purchase another Sony Television (Non-KungFu) for the price of 19,000 Pesos......

why is it that its really hard for you to understand such an easy quote??????

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Question: What are the principal characteristics of a good fighter?

Answer: A good fighter has a lot of tricks, but doesn't play games

Lesson: More Techniques learned are better than Few

Toudiyama[NL]

Maybe because TVs are made modular and can replace seperate PCBs too, thus costing less than the 6000 pesos you have to pay but even without that, you added skills out of the blue, now all of a sudden everyone with a PC can replace the mobo? yeah right that's why I have so much work to do supporting people with the little things
Most people only know a small part of the features of the software they use to begin with let alone change a mobo

Oh the TV will last 5-8 years before it becomes slightly outdated, a PC 2-3 years, no problems with virusinfections either or BSODs, HDs that give up after 1,5 years of use

Like the PC your KF has become outdated, because you forgot to do one thing.....upgrade, instead of accepting no system is perfect and can always use an upgrade, you think your system is already perfect and therefor aren't even willing to use the TVout of your system to connect it to your widescreen TV because you do not want to interact with other systems, instead you insist your 600 peso speakerset will produce the same results as my standalone dolby surround HiFiset

This is why MMA is the best attainable, there you will find interaction, yhus testing all the time, if it doesn't work they get rid of it, if it does. others will start to use it too

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