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How powerful is the straight blast in wing chun? Can you generate power enough to K.O. ? How long do you train to develope this speed and power? Is the correct chinese name for it Jik jung choy ?

m.artist

i thought the straighy blast was only in jkd training?

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Drunken Munky

hehehehe , the word blast, conjures up some good imagery. ahhhhhh.


Anyway, how powerful is the straight punch (I assume). That depends on how good and long your training is.

Memnoch1207

Only as powerful as the person doing it.
There isn't any definitive K.O. power rating. Everyone has different tolerances to pain and how their body will handle it. What might K.O. a 13 year old, wouldn't K.O a professional fighter. So K.O. power is relative to the person being K.O.ed.

Speed is a natural ability and therefore can't be improved as much as one might think. There's a difference between speed and reaction time. The reaction is what you should be trying to improve. How long? depends on the person.

aseepish

I was taught that the straight blast is not a KO tool, but merely a means to an end - the end being the clinch, but with tools such as headbutts, knees, and elbows doing the KOing.

First you gain the initiative by inflicting pain and getting a reaction.
Then you blast and charge in, getting your opponent to move backwards.
This buys you the split second you need to enter to clinching range where you finish the fight. The blasting takes about a beat - no longer.

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Thai Bri

Wing Chun have chain punching, which was then developed into the straight blast in JKD.

The punches are not powerful, and it relies on a barrage to force the opponent back into a defensive posture. When that is acheived you can off-load some more powerful shots.

If you're facing a rock hard assailant with a nasty intent, then forget the flciky chain punching nonsense. He'll walk right through it and knock you out of your socks.

Tom Yum

Money shot?


Freudian.

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Eyegouge

" the end being the clinch, but with tools such as headbutts, knees, and elbows doing the KOing."

I've seen knees and elbows end a fight, but i've never seen a KO from a headbutt.....i think headbutts are a means to an end too there buddy

just wanted to throw in my two cents

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Thai Bri

I have heard, from a very reputable source......that a well known advocate of the head butt has knocked HIMSELF out doing it on more than one occasion.

bcbernam777

It all depends on how well developed your centre of gravity, balance co-ordination is, the straight blast has some tactical advantages behind it, but too many WC people see it as some sort of magical panacea to all of their problems, the straigth blast (chain punching) has its place, but so to does every on ther hand as well.

payon23

Chain Punching is a developmental tool and not generally application.

"Char Kuen" teaches the student the elbow line and the correct release of power. It is also teaches another important skill which is to attack your opponent.

Attacking the opponent's mother line and controlling the centre line is also one useful concept behind the drill.

Wing Chun has many techniques that aren't strictly for application but they are techniques to develop your skills. i.e. timing, power, control, structure, zero points etc.

Maxx

I've found that the straight blast can be interpretted in a few different ways. I generally prefer a conceptual approach (repetitive linear attacks applied through forward pressure and a flawless sense of timing) as opposed to the technical chain-punching of Wing Chun.

I'm also not a big guy... I weight about 145 lbs, but I've severely disoriented people nearly twice my size when I successfully applied the blast. I do, however, generally subscribe to the view that it is a means to an end rather than the end itself.

Certain JKD instructors teach the blast with a sprint forward as opposed to the shuffling step generally used in traditional wing chun. If you think in terms of Power = Speed X Strength, one punch can hit with considerable force... in a proper straight blast, generally several punches will hit before the recipient has time to react... The timing is the real issue... if you don't have a highly developed sense of timing for the application of this technique you could end up looking like a fool chasing somone around trying to hit them.

Phil Elnore

Power does not equal speed vs strength you oaf! Ha ha!

No, power is in inverse proportion to the recoil effect of a body at rest, times the speed of acceleration over decelleration from the highest equation point of the flight of the fist (or whatever tool is being empowered via non external nonsense strength). Strength and weight are irrelevant.

Maxx

[quote=Phil Elnore]Power does not equal speed vs strength you oaf! Ha ha!

Let me get a little more technical then since I didn't communicate it properly and since certain people apparently lack the ability to use abstract thought to understand what I meant.

Force = Mass x Acceleration

Being hit by someone weighing 150 lbs running at you hurts one hell of a lot less that getting hit by someone weighing 220 lbs running at you at the same speed.

It's Newton's second law of physics.

Maxx

Oh, and you're right! Power doesn't equal Speed v Strength... then again, I never said it did. I said Speed x Strength. The Speed v Strength thing is a product of your stupidity... not mine.