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    Registered User AlexJitsu is on a distinguished road
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    Mixing external and internal martial arts...

    I've heard of many people who do styles like Hsing Yi, Tai Chi, or Ba gua, but still study external styles. How can they be mixed? Internal and external styles contradict each other in terms of striking.

    I study Hsing Yi Ch'uan, but I also study Judo and Ju-Jitsu, and practice my external strikes. I'm really interested in studying external gung-fu styles in addition to my internal style, if possible.


    Hsing Yi strikes by alignment and the body weight, not by contracting and expanding your arms, or using your muscles. So it's like a fixed structure coming at the opponent, not snapping and hitting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexJitsu
    I've heard of many people who do styles like Hsing Yi, Tai Chi, or Ba gua, but still study external styles. How can they be mixed? Internal and external styles contradict each other in terms of striking.

    I study Hsing Yi Ch'uan, but I also study Judo and Ju-Jitsu, and practice my external strikes. I'm really interested in studying external gung-fu styles in addition to my internal style, if possible.


    Hsing Yi strikes by alignment and the body weight, not by contracting and expanding your arms, or using your muscles. So it's like a fixed structure coming at the opponent, not snapping and hitting.
    for the beginners???? it is a very hard to mix them both.....

    but for continue practice it, gradually, little by little, and at the right time - you could mix it.......

    the most easiest way to do it is to:
    mastered the previous technique first before proceeding to next technique......

    How to use it in Actual Sparring:
    example:
    1. Opening form of Arhats KungFu(external)
    2. when the opponent attacks you with his fist - defend it using TaiChiChuan KungFu(internal) pushhands
    2. after defending, attack you opponent using WingChun KungFu(Scientific) chainpunching
    3. followup attack you opponent with Mantis KungFu(external) butterfly kick
    4. then finish you opponent with NgoChoKun KungFu(external) Child Holding the Table Palm Strike
    5. then center on-guard your position to TaiChiChuan KungFu(internal) Picking the Needle from the Sea Bottom.....

    note:
    this is only an example of how to mix them both....... a sudden change of fighting attitude, animal flavor.........

    i did this frequently on my sparring partner...... i also love to attack my sparring partner in a Lotus Stance or Kneeling Stance while immediately execute jumping spinning back trust kick of TaeKwonDo......
    "When your hand meets my hand, your hand is already my hand"

    Question: What are the principal characteristics of a good fighter?

    Answer: A good fighter has a lot of tricks, but doesn't play games

    Lesson: More Techniques learned are better than Few

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    Ah, I've figured out how to do it, now. I can take any external strike and convert it into an internal strike by using the Hsing Yi method of attack (the entire body being propelled in a fixed structure by pushing off the back foot and creating a spring like attack).

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    Yep, you got it.

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    Don't learn styles. Learn what are the principles behind it. If you have got a strong ground, it is much easier to learn something "new". Let's say that you are very proficient in Judo (I don't like using the world black belt; I dont think all BB are proficient), it will be much easier for you to learn Aikido compared to someone starting from scratch.

    So, to answer your question, yes.

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