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Old 09-11-2004, 05:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree that Chinese medicine may have been way ahead of its time in uncovering nerve endings, arteries and methods of stimulating the release of endorphins from as long as 1,000 years ago but their description for what is now known scientifically was magic. Yes, they uncovered something, but used crude anatomical and mystical explanations for them.

I agree there's alot to be uncovered about the body, like reflexology. Some people swear by it. Same as those who have used accupuncture to quit smoking, relieve chronic pain, use it as anesthesia for minor surgery and other minor health benefits.

Chi breathing is practiced by those in the internal arts, so if anything I think it has to do with proper breathing, focus and maybe something metabolic....who knows, but the results that you talk about are confirmed. Some elder Taiji practitioners are unusually strong for their age and quite healthy compared to those who don't do taiji.

Any medical practitioners care to share something on this?
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Chi breathing is practiced by those in the internal arts, so if anything I think it has to do with proper breathing, focus and maybe something metabolic....who knows, but the results that you talk about are confirmed. Some elder Taiji practitioners are unusually strong for their age and quite healthy compared to those who don't do taiji.
Oxygen is a powerful thing my friend! It can make metal rust, it can damage living tissus and molecules, but it can heal you also. Did you ever hear of professional athletes getting injured and to help recover faster they spend time in a chamber with oxygen-enriched air. It really cuts down their recovery time. So good oxygenation is the key to a healthy body... not good chi flow!


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Tom Yum, i think that many people try to understand chi in too physical a way.
Let me try to give a comparison (a rough one).
have you ever had a proper massage or proper Aromatherapy??, a serious Aromatherapist will know how to unblock some of the many channels or meridians within the body, one main one is the line about a quarter of an inch along and either side of the spine from base to skull. after such treatment there is a true feeling of well being in addition to a deeply relaxed state, more importantly there is a strong feeling of having the body 'corrected'. Another perhaps better example is that of Reflexology.
The above mentioned internal 'body energy/life force' is the same 'matter' (so to speak, again perhaps somewhat vaguely) as that which is referred to as Chi.
well thats all i can think of off the top of my head, but there are many ebs and flows within our bodies and only when you have had such treatments can you know what I mean. another very decent example is that of Accupressure.
Well, lets look at it from a biology point of view. It's a proven fact that massages, acupuncture and such makes your body release endorphins. These molecules are associated with pain relieve and feeling of well-being. A massage will not unblock some meridians to help chi flow better... it makes your body release molecules (endorphins) that bind to receptor in your body (neurohormones receptors) to produce an effect (pain relieve, well-being...). I will say it again, THERE IS NO CHI!!
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A massage will not unblock some meridians to help chi flow better... I will say it again, THERE IS NO CHI!!
wrong, wrong & double wrong. Chi is real but you simply lack the requisite depth to comprehend it, but I won't hold it against you my fine feathered smiler.
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wrong, wrong & double wrong. Chi is real but you simply lack the requisite depth to comprehend it, but I won't hold it against you my fine feathered smiler.
Nah, you're wrong, i totally comprehend Chi... It's something the old aisan people invented 1000s of years ago cause they didn't have all the scientific knowledge we have today. They needed something that would explain some natural functions of the human body. It's like the ancient greeks or other old civilisation... when there was something they couldn't explain they created a god for it. Let's look at thunder... they thought that it was a god getting angry. They didn't know that it was only a mass of cold air meeting a mass of hot air. Now, go to work or school and try to convince people that thunder is the result of an angry god... poeple will laugh at you and hopefully beat you up! That's the same thing with chi... it's an old creation to explain what poeple didn't knew then.

So no disrespect to anyone believing in chi but you are all naive! Next thing you know you will all tell me that Santa is real! Do yourselves a favor and start reading a little, watch science on TV and things like that... it could open your eyes!
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