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Old 09-27-2004, 09:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think WC and silum
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Depends on what you're trying to do. Throwing? Shui-Chiao. Grappling? Chin na. Strikes? Wing Chun.
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It all depends on the training. Realism is important. Which ever one you choose make sure it includes full contact sparring or full contact grappling. Good luck.
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I think Chinese Martial Arts is so broad it's hard to pinpoint which is the best. Every style has it's advantages and disadvantages. That's what I've learned from my sifu. I've trained with a Shaolin Monk in Houston for the past 4-5yrs. He told me in the beginning there were all sorts of styles and the monks just happened to take the best from each type of style at that point and incorporate it into one. Therein lies the roots of the Five animals of shaolin. Now am i saying that Shaolin is the best kung fu style? No i'm not. That answer lies in the person training and the person teaching. Now in modern times you might not get the same type of training they did in the past since we're not trying to avenge the death of our families or going up against dynasties. Most kung fu schools as well as my former have been training for a shot in the 2008 Olympics in Beijing by training Wushu....Ick!!!...(Sorry sifu!!!). So to me I would have to say that the answer is up to you. Only you can make the style effective and the best. Sorry for the long post!!!
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hsing Yi!!!!!!!!!!

...for its powerful strikes and aggressiveness.
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Old 09-27-2004, 11:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think WC and silum
WC is a part of silum kungfu category.......

now, in KungFu......

Shaolin Based KungFu's is the best in Hand-to-Hand combat......

but in Weaponry.......

Taoist Based KungFu's is the best.........

Shaolin Based KungFu examples:
1. WingChun
2. NgoChoKun
3. Northern Eagle's Claw
4. Choy Li Fut
etc.....

Taoist Based KungFu examples:
1. TaiChiChuan
2. Hsing-Yi
3. Pa-Kua
4. ChiDianBun
etc......
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Hey Sherwinc,

Pare' just a correction if i may? Siu Lum is just the Cantonese dialect for Shaolin. Where Shaolin is the Mandarin. So siu lum(silum) is not a considered a separate category. Sorry i hope you don't mind?
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Hey Sherwinc,

Pare' just a correction if i may? Siu Lum is just the Cantonese dialect for Shaolin. Where Shaolin is the Mandarin. So siu lum(silum) is not a considered a separate category. Sorry i hope you don't mind?
SiuLum, Shorin, SilLum, Shaolin are all in a one Chinese Character......

where WingChun is a Shaolin Based KungFu arts...... a Buddhist kind of Chinese Martial Arts......
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Uhh...yeah....i just said that Shaolin is mandarin dialect and Siu Lum is Cantonese dialect...yes of course they're the same character...I'm not sure i follow you on the "Buddhist kind" martial arts though...My teacher's a Shaolin monk yes so he's buddhist...??? Please help me to understand the angle your coming from. Thanks!
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Wing Chun is from the taoist sector, you will know if you look at it's philosophy. The fact that it was in the shaolin temple doesnt mean its a shaolin style, just like if I was in your house doesnt mean that I live in it.

most short bridge fist kung fu are taoistas using attack and defence at the same time is a basic virtue.JKD is also taoist, bruce is a taoist and using lao tzu's philosophy in it.


To be realistic about it, there are 3 types of kung fu, sil lum, tao and hakka.

Sil lum- lohan, hunga, most straight animal sets, any fut gar,

tao- taichi, hsing I, pa kwa, bak mei, wing chun

hakka- various long fist, hop gar, various tong long, various dragons, family fists
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SiuLum, Shorin, SilLum, Shaolin are all in a one Chinese Character......

Ahhh Wronggg, Shorin can mean small forrest, young forrest, and pine forrest not the same character at all
Kobayashi, Shobayashi and Matsubayashi are the Okinawan pronounciation of Shorin/Shaolin
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most short bridge fist kung fu are taoistas using attack and defence at the same time is a basic virtue.JKD is also taoist, bruce is a taoist and using lao tzu's philosophy in it.
Maybe you are very true about it......

why?????

cause i really confused why our ChiDianBun KungFu is considered to be a Taoist Based KungFu eventhou it is a Short-distance Scientific kungfu...... still considered to be a kungfu from the Northern part of China......
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Sherwinc,

Wing Chun is definetely Taoist, not Buddhist.
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OH Ok...Thanks guys for helping me understand....I got lost there for a sec...
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Wing Chun is definetely Taoist, not Buddhist.
^^ I agree. Buddhism is a Japanese philosophy, whereas Taoism is a Chinese one. Big difference between the two.
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