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Old 01-14-2005, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Kruu Villalobos opened a WC class in his school

Kruu Villalobos recently opened a Wing Chun class in his school. They are available only for the advanced Muay Thai Sangka students who are resident in Chiang Mai. I think this is because the learning of Wing Chun requires much more time than the one of Muay Thai and Krabi Krabong-even if you have to train those two seriously and hard.
And if Kruu Villalobos opened WC classes in his thai MA schools it means that it is efficient for him and that he deems it a good fighting system worthy to be taught. In my opinion more for its fighting principles, chi-sao, center-line concept than for its single techniques. WC principles can be applied to Muay Thai or boxing techniques, like closing the distance immediately and strike from a close range, or deflecting the opponent's blows enough to counter, or using the attacker's force to trap him shortly enough to allow you to hit.
These would work with boxing and muay thai techniques ,I think.
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Muythai/Boxing is not technically complicated. There are several techniques which applied with footwork and timing can be used effectively.

Adding WC principles would be pretty cool - I agree that center line & sensitivity would compliment muay thai.

I think any sensitivity-based infighting art (Silat/Kenpo/WC) would round out MT.
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I have done both and from a functional usage stand point I wouldnt agree. Boxers due have tight center line control and the ability to move and slip. They work constantly against alive force. Same with thai boxers. If you learn you clinching well you will know how to control centerline. When I learned in thai there were alot of techniques they show you, its up to you what you develop. The problem with wing chun was the structure itself, many of the people I saw couldnt functionally pull it off in real time or it degenerated into just a fight like any fight. When they got at it in real time you dont see no traps and all the other things mentioned because they are hard to pull off. Bare knuckle fighters would definitely have alot of centerline control. Senstivity is a huge part of clinch work and it is more involved in the bare knuckle training. Again, its up to the instructors understanding.

Once freed of my wing chun training, upped to boxing, muay thai and bare knuckle my fighting skills shot up, now with the vale tudo and the flow it gives you is just incredible. If I would have dropped something out of the above, it would have definitely been the wing chun. I'm not only talking about the sport arena but the real world as well. I think alot of people in recent times have experienced the shortcomings of the wing chun training and if utilized needed to be trained more functionally in an alive arena.

I think Villalobos is just introducing it from a commercial standpoint as something else to sell to general farang public there. His viewpoints dont seem very realistic to real fighting. Just my 2 cents.
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