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Old 02-04-2005, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey just a little queston how effective is Wuzuquan and what does it focus on i found a local class that teaches this and was wondering overall how it is

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I know nothing
but maybe this link can help you

http://www.wuzuquanireland.com/history.html
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in the begining there was a hungry peson who wanted to make money
then she invented kung fu to sell too the westeners
while keeping the the true meaning to her self she made up stories and took part in a campagin to delute the styles so that they went furter
if you want to know the history make it up that what most people do
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ngo cho kun has already got a thread read it
sorry i meant wuzuquan
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give me money and i will make you wait for a long time maybe 20 years
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Hey just a little queston how effective is Wuzuquan and what does it focus on i found a local class that teaches this and was wondering overall how it is

thanks for any help info or any replies i appreicate it

Mind if I ask where you are? If you could tell me that I could take a good guess at who the teacher is, and give you an idea of how good they are.

Personally speaking (and bear in mind I am biased as I am a wuzuquan practitioner) I think it is a great art. Having said that, the art can only give you so much (and this particular art has so much to give). Effectiveness is all in how you train.
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There are two teachers in England, one I know reasonably well and one I have met in passing.

Sifu Kim Han is a very well respected sifu and really knows his stuff. In fact, he was just recently elected as Chairman of the international Wuzuquan Federation. If it is one of his schools, my advice would be to go along and try it out. I have found they are pretty friendly guys and quite skilled in the art. I have heard on the grapevine that they are pretty good fighters (though I have not had the opportunity to spar with any of them).

As for the other school(s) I believe they are run by Sifu Yap Leong (but I could be wrong). Unfortunately I don't have any experience with his skills or his students so I cannot make any recommendation on their part.

Both schools are of the Chee Kim Thong lineage, so there will be a close relationship in the material taught, though I do believe that Sifu Han is the more senior teacher in the lineage.
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I just found this website. Hope this helps

http://www.wuzuquan.uklinux.net/shre...y_index01.html
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Sifu Kim Han taught the man who is the teacher

Joedo , what is it wuzuquan teachers , is it more striking or defencive , can u explain a little in what u train in

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I just found this website. Hope this helps

http://www.wuzuquan.uklinux.net/shre...y_index01.html

sorry for double post , on th site u gave me the class that i might start training at is advertised on it in the classes else where ..... does this seem a goos sign ?
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Joedo , what is it wuzuquan teachers , is it more striking or defencive , can u explain a little in what u train in

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Wuzuquan can be classed as a stand-up striking art. I don't know if it can be classed as offensive or defensive since it has elements of both, and that really is up to the practitioner. The focus on the art is on a strong stance and what we call 'heavy hands' (hard to describe). Kicking is also part of the art, though the focus is on kicks lower than the waist.

The typical class (though I am not 100% sure of what Mr Han's schools teach) would involve basics such as stances, kicking, punching, stepping. There would be a conditioning component such as partnered strengthening exercises, limb knocking, and whatever cardio the instructor decides to do. Then there are forms. The percentage of time spent on each component will vary from instructor to instructor. Combinations, 3-step sparring, and free sparring are also part of the training curriculum, but again, depends on the instructor.

There is some info on the history of the art on that website, so I won't go into that unless you want me to.

My personal experience in the art is that it has a very strong defensive structure, and the 'heavy hands' are a formidable weapon. I find when I spar I tend to counter-attack.

As for the website, all the classes listed there are part of Sifu Han's network of schools (or affiliated with the Chee Kim Thong lineage through Sifu Han).

I hope that helps. If you can provide more specific questions I can try to answer them in more details.
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Hey just a little queston how effective is Wuzuquan and what does it focus on i found a local class that teaches this and was wondering overall how it is

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The effectiveness of wuzuquan or any form of martial art will depends on ones ability to fit in and understand the art itself or the purpose of training. Some people want quick training, quick techniques something that they can use on the streets immidiately. Some, seek the way of life of the martial way.

But to give you a general idea on your inquiry base on my own personal expereince with wuzuquan is that it focuses on both external and internal. External it emphasied on developing accurate-explosive strikes, the one inch punch principle and the one kill punch principle. It is base on dropping ones attacker in the least amount of time with the use of the simplest and most effective techniques. Internal it is about stimulating the internal organs through proper control breathing in conjunction with wuzuquan forms.

And as Joedoe said, master Han is a very distinguish and accomplishe wuzuquan master. Me, I am of the Philppines Kong Han Athletic Club under the late master Lo King Hui one of the pioneers and an honoruable chairman of the South Shaolin International Wuzuquan Federation.

Bottom line is, try it out and find out if wuzuquan is for you or not.
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Im going to find out when the next class is on and go , how do u find the punching , is the punching simalr to boxing technique with more power or a totla different form , and the sparring ho does it go , is it full or semi contact or up to the teacher

thanks for the replies , and i read a little of the history , but if u want to add some more it willl be greatly appreciated
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In some ways punching is similar to boxing, and in some ways different. The most commonly practiced punch is the straight punch, and in some ways it bears resemblance to the reverse punch. Hooks, uppercuts etc are practiced however more in line with CMA technique rather than boxing.

Sparring is up to the teacher.

There probably isn't much I can add to the history given on the website. I am not sure if the website mentions it, but according to the 'legend' there is a 'Lady in the Green Dress' who helped to refine and strengthen the art. While she is acknowledged as a major contributor, she is not considered one of the Five Ancestors.

If there is anything else you want to know, feel free to ask.
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Im going to find out when the next class is on and go , how do u find the punching , is the punching simalr to boxing technique with more power or a totla different form , and the sparring ho does it go , is it full or semi contact or up to the teacher

thanks for the replies , and i read a little of the history , but if u want to add some more it willl be greatly appreciated
Sparring will really depends on what the school program is.

In some ways usually sparring would start semi contact for new students and once the student becomes more expereince the level of sparring also becomes more intense.

Punching in wuzuquan are mostly explosive-penetrating straight twisting punching. The similarity with boxing is in the use of the legs, hips and shoulders as momentum to drive or generate a powerful strike.
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