polecat63

Wow!!! You're right! This is an awesome way to get your post count up and make the newbies think you're important! Thanks for the idea!! So, now really, this time I mean it!
Bye. Bye Fart Boy!

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jubaji

Oh, you'll be reading them. You have no choice.



By the way, this "Well I don't care, so there!" bit is really not working for ya.

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jubaji

Rest assured that if you want to add to your growing list of fabrications, I'll be reading. So, you might want to do a better job at keeping your lies straight.

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Dom Shakal

Uh, anyone else out there ever seen CMA used in either a street fight, or in a MMA competition?

jubaji

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Why, yes.

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Ravin

You idiot kickboxing is for the streets- Its simple and effective.As much as I hate to agree with Jubaji I think you know nothing about fighting you seem like a asshole that just started out and wants to talk s*** . So according to you the fancy stuff is what works. You've watched too many old kung fu movies.

Dom Shakal

jubaji, where have you seen CMA? MMA competition, or streetfight?
How effective was it?

polecat63

Kickboxing is for the streets? In what alternate universe is it for the street. Sure, it's an effective fighting art and would do well in a real life situation, but it is not a 'street' martial art.
It's derived from Muaythai which started as a defensive art but has been a competition art since around 1300 AD. Kickboxing in the US was a direct result of full contact karate matches starting in the late 1960's and early 1970's. Not the street, moron, but the ring. And maybe you should quote my entire post, or actually read it before you make an ass of yourself.
SO, who's the asshole, troll? Who's talking shit about something they obviously know nothing about? If you claim to practice an art you should at least take a few minutes to learn the history of it. At least jubaji doesn't claim to practice any art other than wrestling and his arguments at least apperar to be based in reality. You don't even get an "a" for effort! Get a life and take some more troll lessons.

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jubaji

Well, I didn't say exactly that, but there was something like a compliment in there somewhere so thanks anyway.

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polecat63

It physically pains me to say this....You're welcome. By the way, sorry for jerking your chain the last few days. Not trying to be buds or anything, just don't want to have to wrestle every time I come here to post. I'm not usually that much of an asshole, but I couldn't resist. The appeal of the dark side can be overwhelming!

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jubaji

No worries

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jubaji

Well it seems that in China, as in most of the universe, when guys go out and get drunk they tend to get into fights.

When I lived in Xi'an in the early-mid 90s, I'd go out for beers with the guys I practiced Taijiquan with and sometimes some stupid drunk would wander over and start trouble, same as anywhere. And they would get smacked in the mouth or thrown on their face, same as anywhere. A couple of the guys I practiced with were the type who, though they wouldn't admit it, enjoyed getting into a little scrap once in a while.

One time I was having a snack in the Muslim quarter with one of the trainers at a KF school I trained at a couple of nights a week when some idiot decided he didn't like the looks of us. Mr Wang gave that boy a pretty good beating if memory serves.


There were no crouching tigers or hidden dragons, and zero wirework. Just folks getting popped in the mouth, swept, thrown, or bounced off a wall. Just like anywhere else.

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47MartialMan

It is the misconception resulting from movies, legends, and under-edicated people who cannot completely understand CMA.

polecat63

I also think it's the total commercialization of arts like Tai Chi (especially in the US) that give people the impression that CMA's are not fighting arts. Plus, you don't see CMA fighters on ESPN2 every other day so people are completely ignorant.
I assume the originator of this thread was not trying to insinuate that CMA' are ineffective.

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Dom Shakal

The fact that you don't see CMA fighters on ESPN2 (ever, from what I've watched ... and very, very little in the UFC) was part of the basis for my original question. I was wondering if anyone had ever seen real CMA stylists in real competitions, or fighting in a streetfight. Looks some of you have, which is cool, and I appreciate the anecdotes.

But it just seems a little ususual to me that some of the CMAs that have been around for so many years *wouldn't* appear in MMA competitions more often.

Does this mean that CMAs are not effective in that type of forum (cage fighting with some rules), or does it mean that they're not effective against a more "complete" fighter? Someone who has crossed-trained in BJJ and MT, for example.

Or, does it mean nothing more than most CMA fighters simply choosing not to participate in those competitions?