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Old 09-24-2005, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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please can someone give advice as to how to go abotu strengthening shins and forearms as i woudl like to strengthen them up not only for kung fu but to offset osteoporosis in later life on my PT course we learned about weight training and things which have seemed to helped but i was just wondering does anyone have any other idea that have quick results!

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I bought my pair, they cost me too much......£500 a shin, and £300 for a forearm. If you study kung fu, and if this Kung fu requires you to condition your shins and forearms, then you'll learn these techinques form your Kung Fu school.

If you want quick results, train more per day.

That probably doesn't help, but hey... it might.
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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please can someone give advice as to how to go abotu strengthening shins and forearms as i woudl like to strengthen them up not only for kung fu but to offset osteoporosis in later life on my PT course we learned about weight training and things which have seemed to helped but i was just wondering does anyone have any other idea that have quick results!

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If this is who I think it is, then you know your wc training develops your forearms. To further develop your forearms, try to save up and purchase a wooden dummy or find someone you can work "fist over fist" with. For your shins, I would suggest that you take up muay thai/kickboxing classes for your shins.

There's also a type of oil that you use after working your forearms/shins. Can anyone help me out here?
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Old 09-26-2005, 04:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The Way the MT buys do it is by Rubbing either a big Dough rollingpin or a Smooth Glass Bottle on the shins.

I believe this strengthens the shin in 2 ways.
Whenever Weight is put on the bones, the body reacts by building up the density of the bone in the areas that require the added structure. People who use Crutches for a long time tend to have strong shoulders and armpits cause of the weight the arms are made to bear. Lifeusers of crutches often have odd bone deposits around the armpits to support the weight from using crutches.
Second, the Rubbing with hard materials makes the shins less sensitive to hits and knocks. Plus theres a slight buildup of muscle fibers on the shin thus making it tougher.

I believe that most medicated oils do help in the recovery. A popular herbal ointment is Dit Da Jow. Not thats hard to find in Tma circles.
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I'm supposed to be doing this but i haven't. I was instructed to use my staff to build up my shin bones. You should sit down legs on the floor and roll your staff up and down your shins. but not just roll it, you need to press it down hard into you shin bone and while doing this also pull your foot back (toes back) as to flex the shin muscles. 100 times every day -- but i dont.
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Be careful with these exercises. Banging away at your shins etc. doesn't "strengthen" them at all. It just deadens the nerves so that you don't feel as much pain.

Now you may think that is good.... but it isn't. pain is good. It tells you when you are injuring yourself. Remove the pain and you end up worse off in the long term.

LittleDemon - train hard but within health limits. And eat well. Thats your best bet for long term health.
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Be careful with these exercises. Banging away at your shins etc. doesn't "strengthen" them at all. It just deadens the nerves so that you don't feel as much pain.

Now you may think that is good.... but it isn't. pain is good. It tells you when you are injuring yourself. Remove the pain and you end up worse off in the long term.

LittleDemon - train hard but within health limits. And eat well. Thats your best bet for long term health.
Thats why i prefer to rub with moderate pressure. It does somewhat deaden the nerves but its main strength is in Building bone mass. When you put weight on bones, its density begins to build.

Even for old people. Bones are basically the only thing that can get stronger with age. Everything else Tends to grow old and wither. Don't get me wrong though, Given enough age bones will deteriorate too.

The Focus in Shin Streghtening should always be physical(building bone mass) not psychological(killing the nerves). When doing those exercises, remember to increase your calcium intake slightly.
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I can't give any adice on shins, however.....

About a year ago, I bought a pair of hand grips and put them in my car. I normally sit in a traffic jam every morning on the way to work, so I thought it might keep me busy.

Since then, I'm on my third pair of hand grips, and I use them just about every day I go to work (5 days a week).

I also try to use my dumbells for wrist curls 3 times a week, but realistically I use them about once a week.

I don't know about the rest of me (old and weak), but my forearms are quite strong!!
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Forearms- 3 star conditioning, either with a partner or on a telegraph pole etc.

shins- many TCMA have their own variation, tong long with shin grinding, wing chun has day bong sao vs kicks etc. Usually one person 'round' kicks and the other blocks with arms or legs.
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the forearms i can advise you on, get a flat smooth wall, stand infront of it, and repeatedly hit the wall with each forearm for about 20 mins each day or possibly longer but when you hit it, youll notice if you, make a fist and strike the wall with your forearm, and have your fist straight with all 4 knuckles facing the wall it dosenot damage your bone, and if you turn your fist to the side so the butt of your fist faces the wall while striking, it sends shocks down your bone and can damage. little tip there.

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it all depends if you have a person or not i will tell what this does
for forearms and shins i would recoomend a iron broom (like 100 hanger wires taped together about a foot and a half long) go untill your moderally pink now what this does is build bone density but be smart and know your limit'

nomatter what somepeople said earlyer like deaden nerves. you cant deaden a nerve its eather alive or gone if you can move your toes then its alive
it builds density of the bones dont beilve me find some hungar practioners get a guy whose been there 7 or more years feel along the shin feels like a washing board
so that proves that it does build density and allite bit moreit can happen sooner like 2 years it takes time to condition there is no "fast way" for them unless you want problems
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