"Kung Fu" explained.

gong fu · 12-10-2005, 09:11 AM

i just wanted to teach some new students to chinese martial arts something,

kung fu is a bastardisation, is it pronounced gong fu, and it is not a martial arts style, some westeners insult gong fu for its true nature and defenition, it can be translated a number of ways, hardwork/skill/dedication,etc

you might say " i learn eagles claw shaolin gong fu" meaning i learn shaolin eagles claw skill/dedication/hardword.

it is not correct for someone to say kung fu is a crap style, kung fu is not a style, it means as i mentioned above, skill and dedication is hardly crappy,

also i wanted some people to know, the forms, stances, set patterned style movements, are for training/conditioning/making you stronger/more flexible, and you dont have to stand in a horse stance or lohan pattern while fighting somebody. could if you want though i guess.

i dont expect many replies to this thread, but i just want begginers to understand a few things, also maybe some ignorant people might learn a thing or 2.

peace.

jubaji · 12-10-2005, 09:25 AM

Whew! Thank goodness! No one's ever mentioned all that before!

gong fu · 12-10-2005, 11:21 AM

sarcasm exepted, want to add anything else aswell? say something that would actualy help a young begginer martial artist?, that is the point of this thread by the way,

peace.

blitz · 12-10-2005, 02:15 PM

I really don't think any of that will help anyone ;o

danfaggella · 12-10-2005, 10:10 PM

Those are valid points, because poeple do consider "kung fu" to be a style or a way of fighting but it means something else to those who invented the term. I think fighting arts are called "wu su" or "wu shu" and can be a way of expressing kung fu, but like the violin or mathematics or any other art or skill or talent.

**shaolin-warrior** · 12-11-2005, 12:48 AM

good points, Kung=accomplishment Fu=effort / Kung Fu is a general term meaning mastery of an art. You could say Muhamad Ali achieved Kung Fu in boxing.

**shaolin-warrior** · 12-11-2005, 12:51 AM

good points, Kung=accomplishment Fu=effort / Kung Fu is a general term meaning mastery of an art. You could say Muhamad Ali achieved Kung Fu in boxing. The actual Chinese term for martial arts is Wu Shu or translated Militaristic techniques.

danfaggella · 12-11-2005, 02:33 PM

I'm so happy that I was right about that!

Hurray for reading

**shaolin-warrior** · 12-11-2005, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danfaggella

I'm so happy that I was right about that!

Hurray for reading

Now how did I miss your post. Sorry about the plagerism.

danfaggella · 12-12-2005, 02:43 PM

No I mean, hurray for me for reading things about KF out of a book.

**Oraenor** · 03-31-2006, 01:36 AM

My canton style cooking kung fu is the best!

Rickster · 10-05-2006, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gong fu

i just wanted to teach some new students to chinese martial arts something,

kung fu is a bastardisation, is it pronounced gong fu, and it is not a martial arts style, some westeners insult gong fu for its true nature and defenition, it can be translated a number of ways, hardwork/skill/dedication,etc

you might say " i learn eagles claw shaolin gong fu" meaning i learn shaolin eagles claw skill/dedication/hardword.

it is not correct for someone to say kung fu is a crap style, kung fu is not a style, it means as i mentioned above, skill and dedication is hardly crappy,

also i wanted some people to know, the forms, stances, set patterned style movements, are for training/conditioning/making you stronger/more flexible, and you dont have to stand in a horse stance or lohan pattern while fighting somebody. could if you want though i guess.

i dont expect many replies to this thread, but i just want begginers to understand a few things, also maybe some ignorant people might learn a thing or 2.

peace.

Yes-Ive been telling people something along this for overe 3 decades

taoistscholar · 10-10-2006, 11:46 PM

Is it true that there are better styles than others in CMA?

47MartialMan · 10-11-2006, 09:32 AM

Better styles? Or better practitioners?

akio123 · 10-11-2006, 09:41 AM

its good to see a thread like this coz we all can learn something new and can correct us from wrong belief's and practice

12-10-2005, 09:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
gong fu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: East London (UK) Posts: 395 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	"Kung Fu" explained. i just wanted to teach some new students to chinese martial arts something, kung fu is a bastardisation, is it pronounced gong fu, and it is not a martial arts style, some westeners insult gong fu for its true nature and defenition, it can be translated a number of ways, hardwork/skill/dedication,etc you might say " i learn eagles claw shaolin gong fu" meaning i learn shaolin eagles claw skill/dedication/hardword. it is not correct for someone to say kung fu is a crap style, kung fu is not a style, it means as i mentioned above, skill and dedication is hardly crappy, also i wanted some people to know, the forms, stances, set patterned style movements, are for training/conditioning/making you stronger/more flexible, and you dont have to stand in a horse stance or lohan pattern while fighting somebody. could if you want though i guess. i dont expect many replies to this thread, but i just want begginers to understand a few things, also maybe some ignorant people might learn a thing or 2. peace. __________________ -Before Guns Men Had Balls- -Shaolin Warrior-

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gong fu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: East London (UK) Posts: 395 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	sarcasm exepted, want to add anything else aswell? say something that would actualy help a young begginer martial artist?, that is the point of this thread by the way, peace. __________________ -Before Guns Men Had Balls- -Shaolin Warrior-

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danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Those are valid points, because poeple do consider "kung fu" to be a style or a way of fighting but it means something else to those who invented the term. I think fighting arts are called "wu su" or "wu shu" and can be a way of expressing kung fu, but like the violin or mathematics or any other art or skill or talent.

12-11-2005, 12:48 AM	#6 (permalink)
shaolin-warrior Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 417 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	good points, Kung=accomplishment Fu=effort / Kung Fu is a general term meaning mastery of an art. You could say Muhamad Ali achieved Kung Fu in boxing.

12-11-2005, 12:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
shaolin-warrior Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 417 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	good points, Kung=accomplishment Fu=effort / Kung Fu is a general term meaning mastery of an art. You could say Muhamad Ali achieved Kung Fu in boxing. The actual Chinese term for martial arts is Wu Shu or translated Militaristic techniques.

12-11-2005, 02:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm so happy that I was right about that! Hurray for reading

12-12-2005, 02:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
danfaggella Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kingston RI Posts: 1,089 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	No I mean, hurray for me for reading things about KF out of a book.

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taoistscholar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 71 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is it true that there are better styles than others in CMA?

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47MartialMan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 571 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Better styles? Or better practitioners?

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akio123 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cebu City Philippines Posts: 161 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	its good to see a thread like this coz we all can learn something new and can correct us from wrong belief's and practice __________________ Famous Karate Kid quote.... Daniel: Hey, what kind of belt do you have? Miyagi: Canvas. JC Penney, 3.98; You like? Daniel: [laughs] No, I meant... Miyagi: In Okinawa, belt mean no need rope to hold up pants. Miyagi: [laughs; then, seriously] Daniel-san, Miyagi: [he taps his head] Karate here. Miyagi: [he taps his heart] Karate here. Miyagi: [points to his belt] Karate never here. Understand?

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