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Jackie Chan 14 46.67%
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Old 03-31-2006, 12:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Of the 2, who do you think is the better fighter?
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Old 04-02-2006, 10:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I voted for(option 3): You are a flucking idiot for comparing 2 people who have no interest/exprience what so ever in actual contact fighting. Its called google and you should probably type their names into the search bar.

Jet li is a Wushu practioner and he has never expressed any interest in actually fighting. In fact, he doesn't even believe in fighting. He does Wushu cause he admires tradition. There are like 100 over fansites on him. Reading one should quickly destroy any fantasies you had about jet li competeting in the ufc.
Jackie chan is a STUNT MAN. He never studied any martial art. Well not for real fighting anyways. His fights are Choreographed. What did i just say? I said he doesn't fight. He's great at stunts and all but he isn't a fighter.
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During Jackie's time at the school, he learned martial arts, acrobatics, singing, and acting. The school was meant to prepare boys for a life in the Peking Opera. Chinese opera was very different from any other kind of opera. It included singing, tumbling, and acrobatics as well as martial arts skills and acting.
Thats from the official jackie chan website. Did you just read that?

They are actors, they star in movies and neither of them actually fight. You can put them both in the ring, give them half-an-hour and i suppose they could choreograph something that satisfies your feitsh.
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I voted for(option 3): You are a flucking idiot for comparing 2 people who have no interest/exprience what so ever in actual contact fighting. Its called google and you should probably type their names into the search bar.

Jet li is a Wushu practioner and he has never expressed any interest in actually fighting. In fact, he doesn't even believe in fighting. He does Wushu cause he admires tradition. There are like 100 over fansites on him. Reading one should quickly destroy any fantasies you had about jet li competeting in the ufc.
Jackie chan is a STUNT MAN. He never studied any martial art. Well not for real fighting anyways. His fights are Choreographed. What did i just say? I said he doesn't fight. He's great at stunts and all but he isn't a fighter.
Thats from the official jackie chan website. Did you just read that?

They are actors, they star in movies and neither of them actually fight. You can put them both in the ring, give them half-an-hour and i suppose they could choreograph something that satisfies your feitsh.
I agree that the fights are mainly choreographed for movies but I do remember that Jackie has trained in fights as well as being in fights when he was younger. Jet li use to be in fighting competitions when he was younger.
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Old 04-03-2006, 12:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Uh... actually no. the only thing that jet lit has competed in are Wushu demos. I know Wushu has a contact part called San shou. But no. He never competed in those.
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yeh 6 time world champion -forms.

With all of Jet's film he must have picked up some fighting talent though!!!
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It depends on how much Xing Yi did he actually studied. But to clarify things, Jackie Chan has fought for real before and had studied other martial arts like Wing Chun. Jackie Chan definitely had more experience.
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just shoot me and stake my body on a pole already.
Where exactly did you get this from? what your master said isn't a reliable source.
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Screw what MA they study...put them in ring with MMA rules and less see what they can do from there...I think Jet Li would win cause he's younger and he might currently do MT or something
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just shoot me and stake my body on a pole already.
Where exactly did you get this from? what your master said isn't a reliable source.


How about Jackie Chan's own autobiography? Honestly, based on what I read from you, you know next to nothing about Jet Li and Jackie Chan. Chan said he fought on the streets before and he also fought with Sammo Hung. Hung, Biao and Chan loved to pick up different styles of martial arts.
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This coming from a guy with 11 posts? Geeze...
In other words what triangechoke said. The onyl way you'll find out who is better is by putting them in a ring. MMA/Kickboxing/TRUE NHB. Whatever.
When will you dumbasses finally get it? You can spend your whole life learning every single form there is to learn and still not be able to fight for shit.

Get this. To be able to fight. You actually have to fight. Learning forms alone is like saying your going to do well in school cause you're always in class. Even though you were sleeping.
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This coming from a guy with 11 posts? Geeze...
In other words what triangechoke said. The onyl way you'll find out who is better is by putting them in a ring. MMA/Kickboxing/TRUE NHB. Whatever.
When will you dumbasses finally get it? You can spend your whole life learning every single form there is to learn and still not be able to fight for shit.

Get this. To be able to fight. You actually have to fight. Learning forms alone is like saying your going to do well in school cause you're always in class. Even though you were sleeping.
Pretty sad isn't it? I have 11 posts and I know more than you do. I never said that Jackie Chan can fight professionally in a ring. But you don't need to go to the ring to prove that you can fight at all. And yes you do need to fight for real in order to learn. Forms without the knowledge of real life application and quick reaction are useless in a real fight. You can't look pretty and fight at the same time. The thing is, Jackie Chan HAD been in fights before. Chan said it himself. He is not just a guy with forms.
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I find Jackie Chan better to watch in a "fight". His use of acrobatics and props is outstanding. So, for me, Jackie chan is better because he entertains me more.
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Pretty sad isn't it? I have 11 posts and I know more than you do. I never said that Jackie Chan can fight professionally in a ring. But you don't need to go to the ring to prove that you can fight at all. And yes you do need to fight for real in order to learn. Forms without the knowledge of real life application and quick reaction are useless in a real fight. You can't look pretty and fight at the same time. The thing is, Jackie Chan HAD been in fights before. Chan said it himself. He is not just a guy with forms.
Ok there is no nice way to say this. So i'll just say it, you're a <censored>. Period.
To know which is the better fighter, one thing must first happen. They have to fight each other.
This thread is like Muhammed Ali vs. Mike Tyson or Bruce Lee in a UFC match.
Its just a fantasy. Untill such time that they do fight each other, there is no conclusive evidence of who is better.

It would help if they had a few documented fights/matches. That would give us a rough idea of the kind of strategies and techniques that they use. But still that is going to be pointless. Just a fantasy.
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Ok there is no nice way to say this. So i'll just say it, you're a dumbass. Period.
To know which is the better fighter, one thing must first happen. They have to fight each other.
This thread is like Muhammed Ali vs. Mike Tyson or Bruce Lee in a UFC match.
Its just a fantasy. Untill such time that they do fight each other, there is no conclusive evidence of who is better.

It would help if they had a few documented fights/matches. That would give us a rough idea of the kind of strategies and techniques that they use. But still that is going to be pointless. Just a fantasy.
LOL, you lost a debate and you called me a dumbass? Since when did I disagree with you in this point? Of course you have to fight for real in order to determine fights. Hey, Tito just beat Ken and they haven't even fight yet!!!! LOL. But you can still speculate based on facts right? You said that: "To be able to fight. You actually have to fight. Learning forms alone is like saying your going to do well in school cause you're always in class. Even though you were sleeping." This was what I was countering. Jackie Chan HAD been into fights with other martial artists and street fights. He his just not at a level where he can fight professionally in a ring.
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