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    find yourself a camera...
    post a video here of the said techniques and practical application of your art in real time, against an aggressive, non compliant opponent...
    www.youtube.com

    and I'll shut the **** up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punkmonk
    but online everything is speculation, theory, and academics. Makes it more difficult to teach priciples of technique, and whatnot.
    Okay, I'll Humor you, what Theory and principle is it you're trying to teach us?
    I'm very interested in the CMA's so since you teach them, please educate me.

    Is your schools style defined as internal or external?

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    Really Wing Chun is both. Mainly Internal working with forward force and chi. But the strikes are powerful when trained and taught correctly. Some schools short cut the training techniqe, or rely on brute strength too much and this makes it ineffective.
    Check out Grand Master Jim Fung's website: http://www.wingchun.com.au
    for good info. He was one of my teachers teacher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkmonk
    Really Wing Chun is both. Mainly Internal working with forward force and chi. But the strikes are powerful when trained and taught correctly. Some schools short cut the training techniqe, or rely on brute strength too much and this makes it ineffective.
    Check out Grand Master Jim Fung's website: http://www.wingchun.com.au
    for good info. He was one of my teachers teacher.
    Okay so you teach internal principles and theory since your art contains internal components, correct?

    Whats the proper way to intercept a punch according to internal theories?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoarSpear
    Whats the proper way to intercept a punch according to internal theories?
    Drunken boxing internal guy intercepting kicks
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdzoK...rtial%20artist

    WC guy intercepting punches...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRNR...wing%20chun%20

    top cma guys fighting (watch the haymakers fly)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1KQe...%20chi%20fight

    oh shit...look who's pretty boy is on the ground fighting!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szdF1...20chun%20fight
    he can't grapple worth shit...but hey, neither can the other guy...
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    Sigh. That was before Sifu Emin created the WT ground fighting.
    And as for the WC guy vs. Karate. I coudn't even reconize what he was doing as anything pertaining to any art. If he was WC he didn't use it. I can give you a like to a new video we've put on our website which shows our ground fighting if your even remotely interested.
    I figure It'd be a waste of time, you've already closed your mind.
    Those films are ancient. Like I've said before, WC/WT is still evolving, changing. It's only a couple of hundred years old, very young for a CMA.
    Check out the Systema ground videos on yahoo videos too.
    But this stuff you really have to experence and feel to get a full understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkmonk
    Check out the Systema ground videos on yahoo videos too.
    But this stuff you really have to experence and feel to get a full understanding.
    I can't fucking believe you just said systema...did you really just say systema???



    uh, dur....**** no, I don't think so.
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    As for intercepting a punch, it depends on the angle of the punch. They throw a hook punch Dai Sau, and straight punch tau sau or pac sau, a gut shot, chit sau. All to be met with forward pressure and redirection of your opponents force. The Jim Fung Website goes indepth on these principles. But, again, sensitivity, and reaction drilling are crutial. You can talk about it all day and learn nothing, you can watch videos and learn basic mechanics with no practicality, you can read books and still not get it. You have to feel it, train it, drill it, spar it, and experience it.

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    Have you seen the videos? I just came across them this week.

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    yeah yeah yeah, pok sau da...pok sau, tan sau, gum sau...

    great great great...for TRAPPING RANGE.
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    Thanks for your contribution of nothing to the conversation duder. Showing me your I.Q. again. lol

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    Keeps me from getting punched everytime. What exactly are you trying to figure out about "intercepting fist"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkmonk
    Showing me your I.Q. again. lol
    I.Q.? Who's model? Multifactor or G Factor model?
    What does that have to do with generalized social skills?

    Once again...you're the one being narrow minded...humor me, for just one second, and think to yourself, "okay, MAYBE WT/WC isn't as comprehensive and complete as I think it is...maybe there are other arts that I could perhaps cross-train or look into to become a better, more well rounded fighter."

    Get there, and then we'll be able to talk in a civil manner...without the hostilities and in a proper dialogic structure instead of straight up mud-slinging.

    A'ight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by punkmonk
    As for intercepting a punch, it depends on the angle of the punch. They throw a hook punch Dai Sau, and straight punch tau sau or pac sau, a gut shot, chit sau. All to be met with forward pressure and redirection of your opponents force. The Jim Fung Website goes indepth on these principles. But, again, sensitivity, and reaction drilling are crutial. You can talk about it all day and learn nothing, you can watch videos and learn basic mechanics with no practicality, you can read books and still not get it. You have to feel it, train it, drill it, spar it, and experience it.
    So you use external power to redirect the strikes then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkmonk
    Keeps me from getting punched everytime. What exactly are you trying to figure out about "intercepting fist"?
    yeah...I get it...deflect shit away from the centerline, or hit with a slip entry...right???
    or pak sau and hit (pak-da)...it's about the same as parrying and punching in boxing.

    Lop Sao, Tan sau, Fuk Sau, Huen sau, Gum Sau, yada yada yada...it all works within' trapping range...the whole "bridge the gap thing" is not an Emin original...look up Jun Fan Gung Fu...
    and the whole "anti-grapple" thing...is for the most part, BS. Yeah, there's stuff you can do to try and not end up on the ground, but chances are, if the person knows what the **** they're doing, and they're motivated...they'll get you on your back...and they WILL hurt you.
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