Shuai chiao and Chang Dun Sheng Videos

BoarSpear · 06-24-2006, 09:16 PM

John Wang, student of Chang Dun Sheng
Great stuff! Enjoy.
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knifethrower · 06-24-2006, 10:22 PM

Dude, my computer is sucking Ass...I can't see the vids but, maybe that's my falt.

Anybody else have this prob

treelizard · 06-24-2006, 10:23 PM

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BoarSpear · 06-24-2006, 10:37 PM

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they all got pulled....I dont think they liked all the attention they got....DAMN they were BADDASS!!!

BoarSpear · 06-24-2006, 10:41 PM

Hehehehehehe lets try this again...

knifethrower · 06-25-2006, 08:26 AM

Great vids, dude. Thanks a lot…that was cool….oh yeah, before I forget, the forth one didn’t play……..

The break falls are like the ones I see in judo and if you are being thrown, you can’t grab your opponent. You do your stuff a little different, right?

The bag work I saw taught me a lot. With my little 3 and a half-pound bag, I use to snatch/slap the crap out of it just before I caught it. This is bad, right?…I think I read that somewhere…. Now when I workout, you can barely here me touch the bag before I grab. That’s better, right?

In the vid, it said this guy was in Texas….Where?…..or was it those little voices in my head that said that…..I'm feeling strange....where am I?....pretty colors.....

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 06-25-2006, 12:00 PM

Those throws(especially in the last video) were awesome, but doesnt Judo have all the same throws as Shuai Chiao? What makes this Chinese style of wrestling so much different than Judo or western Freestyle/Greco? Is it that Different?

In the video it didnt seem like there was any opponent resistance. What are the rules and restrictions in Shuai Chaio wrestling?

Mephariel · 06-25-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 7r14ngL3Ch0k3

Those throws(especially in the last video) were awesome, but doesnt Judo have all the same throws as Shuai Chiao? What makes this Chinese style of wrestling so much different than Judo or western Freestyle/Greco? Is it that Different?

In the video it didnt seem like there was any opponent resistance. What are the rules and restrictions in Shuai Chaio wrestling?

Alot of Judo were influenced by Shuai Chiao. During the Ming dynasty Chinese masters fled to Japan and taught martial arts there. A statue of Chen Yuan-Yun can be found outside of a temple in Tokyo. From what I seen, wrestling is perhaps the most popular art of all time in history. All countries wrestle and they all developed similar techniques from long time ago.

BoarSpear · 06-25-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by knifethrower

Great vids, dude. Thanks a lot…that was cool….oh yeah, before I forget, the forth one didn’t play……..

Try this one...

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knifethrower · 06-26-2006, 10:12 AM

Thanks, dude.....it played

**kingoftheforest** · 06-26-2006, 01:51 PM

Wow this all looks so familiar for some reason lol.

Sagacious Lu · 06-27-2006, 10:52 AM

Thanks for the links. It was cool to see some of their moves demonstrated. Do you know if there are vids of any matches on line? I'd like to see a competition. Also, do they do any ground fighting?

BoarSpear · 06-30-2006, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sagacious Lu

Thanks for the links. It was cool to see some of their moves demonstrated. Do you know if there are vids of any matches on line? I'd like to see a competition. Also, do they do any ground fighting?

I havent seen any online matches

And No, Shuai Chaio doesnt ground fight, the system was being taught to the military in 1025 BC so the techniques didnt include ground work. They give you 3 seconds to make something happen after a grapple is initiated or they break it up. The idea being if you didnt do anything with a competant opponent in 3 seconds he would have pulled a weapon or struck you to finish to the fight, today they still respect that rule. I disagree with that rule in todays world since most people havent done the conditioning to actually deliver that type strike at those ranges.

Mongolian wrestling and Tapir contain some effective ground fighting but you wont find them on the net.

Sagacious Lu · 06-30-2006, 11:02 AM

Thanks. I'm not at all convinced of that three second clinch rule myself. A weapon is always possible, but I'm skeptical of the idea that any single unarmed strike will reliably finish a fight. Sure it's possible but I wouldn't want to bet my continued good health on it. It seems like an excuse for not getting good at clinching; you might not WANT to clinch for more than three seconds but if you never practice it what will you do on the day you HAVE to?

Mephariel · 07-01-2006, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagacious Lu

Thanks. I'm not at all convinced of that three second clinch rule myself. A weapon is always possible, but I'm skeptical of the idea that any single unarmed strike will reliably finish a fight. Sure it's possible but I wouldn't want to bet my continued good health on it. It seems like an excuse for not getting good at clinching; you might not WANT to clinch for more than three seconds but if you never practice it what will you do on the day you HAVE to?

Were they talking about striking? I thought BoarSpear meant that in a clinch, if you cannot make your move in three seconds, they break it up.

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knifethrower Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: I'm Texan, but I live in lots of places Posts: 527	Great vids, dude. Thanks a lot…that was cool….oh yeah, before I forget, the forth one didn’t play…….. The break falls are like the ones I see in judo and if you are being thrown, you can’t grab your opponent. You do your stuff a little different, right? The bag work I saw taught me a lot. With my little 3 and a half-pound bag, I use to snatch/slap the crap out of it just before I caught it. This is bad, right?…I think I read that somewhere…. Now when I workout, you can barely here me touch the bag before I grab. That’s better, right? In the vid, it said this guy was in Texas….Where?…..or was it those little voices in my head that said that…..I'm feeling strange....where am I?....pretty colors..... __________________ "Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things."

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BoarSpear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,729	.......... ............. they all got pulled....I dont think they liked all the attention they got....DAMN they were BADDASS!!!

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7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,511	Those throws(especially in the last video) were awesome, but doesnt Judo have all the same throws as Shuai Chiao? What makes this Chinese style of wrestling so much different than Judo or western Freestyle/Greco? Is it that Different? In the video it didnt seem like there was any opponent resistance. What are the rules and restrictions in Shuai Chaio wrestling?

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Sagacious Lu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Liangshan Marsh Posts: 1,053	Thanks for the links. It was cool to see some of their moves demonstrated. Do you know if there are vids of any matches on line? I'd like to see a competition. Also, do they do any ground fighting? __________________

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Sagacious Lu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Liangshan Marsh Posts: 1,053	Thanks. I'm not at all convinced of that three second clinch rule myself. A weapon is always possible, but I'm skeptical of the idea that any single unarmed strike will reliably finish a fight. Sure it's possible but I wouldn't want to bet my continued good health on it. It seems like an excuse for not getting good at clinching; you might not WANT to clinch for more than three seconds but if you never practice it what will you do on the day you HAVE to? __________________

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