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Old 06-26-2006, 08:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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One thing I've wondered about TCMAs is why do they stand flat footed and pivot on the heels? I can see where sometimes it might be the best choice but, in general, it seems that keeping the weight on the balls of the feet is a more natural and athletic way to move?
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One thing I've wondered about TCMAs is why do they stand flat footed and pivot on the heels? I can see where sometimes it might be the best choice but, in general, it seems that keeping the weight on the balls of the feet is a more natural and athletic way to move?

Actually different CMA styles use different stances and stepping as well as pivot points. The heels generally provide more power to the pivot while the ball of the foot is used to create faster transitions. Some styles actually strive to keep the heels off the ground constantly.
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Some styles actually strive to keep the heels off the ground constantly.
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Actual discussion of similiarities and or differences are more than welcome dude, its the "your shit doesnt work because...." crap I cant stand.

One of the things we usally strive for is keeping the heels off the ground as much as possible, after all a ball rolls because it has only one point of contact with the ground right? Reduce drag and you move quicker.
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One of the things we usally strive for is keeping the heels off the ground as much as possible, after all a ball rolls because it has only one point of contact with the ground right? Reduce drag and you move quicker.
What style is that? I guess there's a lot of kung fu styles and they're all different.
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What style is that? I guess there's a lot of kung fu styles and they're all different.
Du Boxing.

There are over 300 styles of empty hand combat in the CMA's
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Actual discussion of similiarities and or differences are more than welcome dude, its the "your shit doesnt work because...." crap I cant stand.
Unless it's you telling people their MMA doesn't work, their wing chun doesn't work, their jiu jutsu doesn't work, every single style of taiji except for the one you train in doesn't work, etc. etc. etc.
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There are also styles with stomping steps that still strive to keep the heels off the ground like Pa Pan Chang for instance. Its very similiar to Baqua and some even claim its a grandfather to Baqua but there is little evidence to support that although it is older than Baqua. The main difference is the lack of Tang Ne Bu which is replaced with the unicorn step.

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