The Ultimate in Martial Arts

**Garland** · 08-01-2006, 03:48 AM

Naw...I agree with that part, Triangle...but badmouthing striking in general is fucking retarded. Did he see what Silva did to Saku?...and that's a sportive example...

aku aku · 08-01-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gibsonman

i think its freakin dangrous to teach someone any type of traditional martial art to peaple and say they can defend themselfs, what if they run into a mma fighter and think they can kill them with some deathblow, the traditional artist can get really injured

Why did people even think they could fight before mma? There should be a ban on traditional arts for the students' own safety.

jubaji · 08-01-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gibbonman

also the only reason that more peaple think that chinese martial arts are still usefull is because there narrowminded and dont know that a grappler can defeat a striker wihout any effort.

You're an idiot. Shut up and go work on your spelling.

Toudiyama[NL] · 08-01-2006, 10:35 AM

Bas Rutten started Pancrase without any grapling experience, didn't keep him from winning...heck he even told his opponent that if they would not hit while on the ground he wouldn't do so either, most of his opponents were all to willing to oblige to that

So Gibbonman your statement is just plain wrong

Sagacious Lu · 08-01-2006, 10:42 AM

For fu*!'s sake, if you're going to be a troll at least try to do something original and entertaining

OMG OMG OMG OMG MMA is teh 1337 ruler of teh martial arts world111111!!!!!!!1111111111sddfgdasgasdasdg

Mephariel · 08-04-2006, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gibsonman

i think its freakin dangrous to teach someone any type of traditional martial art to peaple and say they can defend themselfs, what if they run into a mma fighter and think they can kill them with some deathblow, the traditional artist can get really injured

Yeah, even if that is true, how many percentage of the world are MMA fighters? Less than 0.1%?

Mephariel · 08-04-2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gibsonman

also the only reason that more peaple think that chinese martial arts are still usefull is because there narrowminded and dont know that a grappler can defeat a striker wihout any effort.

Right...is that why Chuck Liddell's excellent counter shooting is the reason he beat Tito Ortiz with PUNCHES?

7r14ngL3Ch0k3 · 08-04-2006, 06:59 AM

Its useless replying to this troll, it wouldnt be likely if he even came back here especially with all the flaming he's recieved. Gibsonman has most likely been banned.

blitz · 08-04-2006, 09:30 AM

yes mt/boxing should start teaching sub wrestling and cmas should teach them too. grappling destroys everything!

mea140 · 08-04-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buradzuri-kun

To people who think kung fu martial arts are useless... only if they have enough of a brain to understand what i am about to say,

Its not like in a real fight all the guy would use is the fancy stuff, like who in their right mind would. they could just use some simple punches and kicks but incorperated with the speed and physical power they had trained for. Of course if they were to do like spinning flippy kicks over the guy they'd get their butts kicked, but kung fu isnt crap, with the training, as i said, they train hard and they get great speed and power so they become stronger. Saying that "some" moves of kung fu, not the fancy fist movements and stuff would be good in a fight, but stuff like they way they train for the fancy movements, that could make them much more limber for evading a simple punch or kick from any guy on the street. It's not in the martial art, it's all in the fighter themselves, if they are to incorperate the useful stuff, and just not even think about the fancy useless stuff, then kung fu or something like that would prove useful. there i have said it. Think of what you wish of me, but thats what i think.

Damn you sound pissed. What I think you should do is go fight in UFC and represent how badass kung-fu is. Thats what Gracie did for bjj and now every loves it. REP YO SHIT MAN

**Oraenor** · 08-05-2006, 10:44 AM

another one of those MA1 vs MA2 posts eh!

to me, MMA,kung fu, karatae etc are all ultimately the same and are as effective as each other, they are all designed to defend one self and to attack others. I have no problems with people studying one path of art and that they will be as effective as a MMA as long as they are aware of what arts are out there. This is where MMA is an advantage as they have experience and awareness of whats out there.
A final note is that MMA, kung fu and karatae ultimately does not imply any style, rather a term used in they way of fighting.

**Thai Bri** · 08-05-2006, 03:29 PM

What a heap of meaningless junk.

Sly Dog · 08-31-2006, 03:35 PM

The worse thing about grappling with a guy you've just eviscerated is getting blood all over your tee shirt.

Shaolin Bushido · 08-31-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buradzuri-kun

To people who think kung fu martial arts are useless... only if they have enough of a brain to understand what i am about to say,

Its not like in a real fight all the guy would use is the fancy stuff, like who in their right mind would. they could just use some simple punches and kicks but incorperated with the speed and physical power they had trained for. Of course if they were to do like spinning flippy kicks over the guy they'd get their butts kicked, but kung fu isnt crap, with the training, as i said, they train hard and they get great speed and power so they become stronger. Saying that "some" moves of kung fu, not the fancy fist movements and stuff would be good in a fight, but stuff like they way they train for the fancy movements, that could make them much more limber for evading a simple punch or kick from any guy on the street. It's not in the martial art, it's all in the fighter themselves, if they are to incorperate the useful stuff, and just not even think about the fancy useless stuff, then kung fu or something like that would prove useful. there i have said it. Think of what you wish of me, but thats what i think.

One word.

And that word is ....

... punctuation.

taoistscholar · 10-10-2006, 11:48 PM

Where have you seen Chinese Martial Artists do fancy stuff in fights?

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08-01-2006, 03:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
Garland Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 5,275 Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts	Naw...I agree with that part, Triangle...but badmouthing striking in general is fucking retarded. Did he see what Silva did to Saku?...and that's a sportive example... __________________ homo homini lupus

08-01-2006, 10:35 AM	#19 (permalink)
Toudiyama[NL] Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Zaandam, Netherlands Posts: 1,375 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bas Rutten started Pancrase without any grapling experience, didn't keep him from winning...heck he even told his opponent that if they would not hit while on the ground he wouldn't do so either, most of his opponents were all to willing to oblige to that So Gibbonman your statement is just plain wrong __________________

08-01-2006, 10:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
Sagacious Lu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Liangshan Marsh Posts: 1,310 Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts	For fu*!'s sake, if you're going to be a troll at least try to do something original and entertaining OMG OMG OMG OMG MMA is teh 1337 ruler of teh martial arts world111111!!!!!!!1111111111sddfgdasgasdasdg __________________

08-04-2006, 09:30 AM	#24 (permalink)
blitz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Home Posts: 1,038 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes mt/boxing should start teaching sub wrestling and cmas should teach them too. grappling destroys everything! __________________

08-04-2006, 06:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
7r14ngL3Ch0k3 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,562 Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its useless replying to this troll, it wouldnt be likely if he even came back here especially with all the flaming he's recieved. Gibsonman has most likely been banned.

08-05-2006, 10:44 AM	#26 (permalink)
Oraenor Premiere Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oz/Down Under (aka Hell) Posts: 543 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	another one of those MA1 vs MA2 posts eh! to me, MMA,kung fu, karatae etc are all ultimately the same and are as effective as each other, they are all designed to defend one self and to attack others. I have no problems with people studying one path of art and that they will be as effective as a MMA as long as they are aware of what arts are out there. This is where MMA is an advantage as they have experience and awareness of whats out there. A final note is that MMA, kung fu and karatae ultimately does not imply any style, rather a term used in they way of fighting. __________________ America's solution to birth control- "Lets start a war!"

08-05-2006, 03:29 PM	#27 (permalink)
Thai Bri Premiere Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,413 Groans: 1 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts	What a heap of meaningless junk.

08-31-2006, 03:35 PM	#28 (permalink)
Sly Dog Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 17 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	The worse thing about grappling with a guy you've just eviscerated is getting blood all over your tee shirt.

10-10-2006, 11:48 PM	#30 (permalink)
taoistscholar Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 72 Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts	Where have you seen Chinese Martial Artists do fancy stuff in fights?

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